Hate it when someone nails me and doesn't even know me

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Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 73 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Oh stop with the relatable memes, I can’t afford to get tested.

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 1y

If all you need is to see if you likely have it (without an official diagnosis), you can search for ASRSv1.1. Answer the questions brutally truthfully. Again, it's not a diagnosis, but it'll tell you if you likely have it.

RandomStickman@fedia.io · 39 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I'm too food motivated for this

BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 1y

Being food motivated is exactly why I do this sometimes... Everything tastes better when you're hungry, and you can eat more of it

spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I would love to go back to that and be a healthy weight again, but being forced to eat at scheduled times due to pressure from family and social scheduling means I end up eating too much over the course of the day even if I'm not hungry.

Azzu@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y

Hope you'll eventually be able to stop caring about pressure from family and social scheduling. I wish you well.

peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 4 pts · 1y

My recommendation is to eat just a little at the "scheduled" times, and and eat your main meal when your hungry.

The biggest problem with obesity is when we override our hunger signals. Then things get real bad real quick.

gashead76@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y (2 replies)

We call it “The Big Eat” here in my household.

TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I showed my sister and she said "SNAKE MEAL‼️"

gashead76@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

That’s fantastic! Might have to integrate that one into the local vernacular.

Free_Opinions@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 1y

I don't even have a diagnosis. I'm here just for these relateable memes.

peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 15 pts · 1y

Yeah so my kid does this.

He ate a full ass portion of sweet and sour chicken rice and vegetables. And a brownie. And a cheesey roll up. And drank all the chocolate milk we had.

The kid is as thin as I was at his age, the biggest difference is that he has two parents that also both have ADHD so they get it, and also get that getting that food eaten is what's most important.

Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 1y (3 replies)

See, for me hunger is an all consuming distraction. There have been very few times I get so hyper focused I forget to eat.

Medication helps, but I still get hungry and crave chocolate.

Psythik@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Try smoking/vaping weed every day. Eventually you get your tolerance to the point where the anti-munchies kick in, i.e. you won't be able to eat if you don't smoke. Great for weight loss.

Unfortunately you won't be able to sleep, either, but that's why you simply partake shortly before bed and then fall asleep before you get hungry.

BitchPeas@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y

Lol every day. Not the best plan. Also munchies always hit when I was a daily use addict for over 15 years. Be careful with mind altering substances.

kat@orbi.camp · 3 pts · 1y

Same, never understood this side of ADHD. Meal time is the only time I don't deal with dysregulation lmao

Dupree878@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y

I didn’t know this was an ADD thing

But this is so me

Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 1y (2 replies)

That's it... I sent my general practitioner a message to get tested for adhd and autism. It's gonna be fun to find out where on the spectrum I land

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I like to say we're part of indigo - it's a color that's underrated, overshadowed by more "standard" colors, and often misunderstood or misidentified.

Also, once you get an eye for identifying indigo, you start to spot it more easily. Just as learning more about one's own autism can lead to one recognizing traits in their family or friends.

r1ch134dl3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y

That could lead to undesired association with Indigo children...

ikidd@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y (18 replies)

OMAD is a common fasting method by more than just ADHD people.

Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 1y (11 replies)

True... but it's not really intentional or desired for some of us. Like, I WANT to put on weight (especially fat), but unless I set timers or am incredibly conscious that I need to eat, time just zips by, and I end up eating as described in the post. When I super focus on it (meal prep, shakes, etc), it starts to become a major point of anxiety in my life, and my relationship with food starts to get kind of toxic. I'm alive, healthy, and all that, but this kind of thing is very different than intentional fasting or dieting.

save_the_humans@leminal.space · 4 pts · 1y

Food feels great when shared communally. Pretty sure it's hard for a lot of people to eat because we've sort of lost that as a society.

frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe · -12 pts · 1y (9 replies)

Right you have an eating disorder

Is fine

Many do

Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 1y (8 replies)

You're entirely wrong about that, and I think that's the entire point of this post. Eating does not repulse or disgust me. I have zero anxiety that xyz food is going to make me gain/lose weight. The idea here is that our brains absolutely do not easily create a routine around food. Let's say it's 10am and I'm starting to get hungry- I'll tell myself "okay, lunch in the next hour or two!" I briefly go back to whatever I was doing, look at the clock again, and it's 6pm.

frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Your 2nd sentence implies you have no clue at all what an eating disorder is.

Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I'm honestly going to go by the fact that not a single time in my life has it been brought up by my doctors, psychs, or therapists - some of whom I've been seeing for decades. I'm sure you're incredibly qualified to make these types of diagnoses based off of a few sentences from someone on a message board, but please use your time for your actual patients.

frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 1y

I'm more than happy to be corrected by someone with a real professional background, but going to a bunch of therapists doesn't make you any more of an expert than me. But what is clear from your message is you definitely dont know what an eating disorder is, because you described incorrect symptoms.

faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y (4 replies)

It's an unfortunate stereotype that all eating disorders are anorexia, but not all of them come from a concern about weight gain/loss. I have a binge-eating disorder from growing up in poverty, and it's given me the compulsion to stuff as much food into me as possible because I grew up not knowing when my next meal would be.

When I super focus on it (meal prep, shakes, etc), it starts to become a major point of anxiety in my life, and my relationship with food starts to get kind of toxic.

I go through the same thing whenever I try to control my binge eating, and it turns hella toxic.

Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

My understanding of binge eating when it comes to eating disorders is that people will eat when they don't want to, are already full, eat till they are sick, feel negative about binging, eating fast for hours, etc - this isn't what I experience. I do get hungry and I eat till I'm satisfied. I would not classify the way I eat in this manner as binging - it doesn't bother me, I don't eat myself sick, and I can stop when I want.

faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y (2 replies)

No, I don't fast after, which is what differentiates my BED from bulimia. I've never felt shame from my eating specifically, it's always been a method of self-soothing anxiety about future availability of food. I do feel shame when I'm reminded that's not a healthy mindset around food, but the shame is complicated and partly about my economic status, not the food itself. You may not have BED, but I would recommend looking into eating disorders.

The only reason it's getting brought up is because you said that your relationship with food can be toxic when you try to meal plan, and that's a big indicator light that you may also have an eating disorder. Autism, ADHD, and eating disorders are very commonly found together, so it's not like you can only have one or the other.

Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y

Okay, this is getting to be a bit much. I'm over 30 years old, have been seeing my PCP for the entirety of my life- he was the one who first diagnosed my autism and have me sent to be evaluated for ADHD. Due to insurance, I've had multiple psychs/therapists, but often see them for 3-5 years. I spend hours with these people talking about a variety of things, including eating habits. Never ONCE has any medical professional diagnosed or hinted that my relationship with food is related to an eating disorder. My anxiety around meal prepping was due to me training for competitive bodybuilding and having to eat 6 large meals throughout the day mentally wore me down. This mental hangup continued after I stopped training, and has less to do with the eating and more to do with the planning my schedule around eating. I very much dislike ANY form of structure which feels rigid or like I have to be conscious of times/date. I have no problems with the food itself, I have no problems controlling my intake of food, and my only issues stem from the scheduling and routine of eating.

frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe · -8 pts · 1y (5 replies)

Yeah more eating disorder than adhd

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Can we please stop pathologizing every little quirk? There is no one way to eat. Just because you're accustomed to the idea of 3 square meals in a day doesn't mean that deviation from that pattern is wrong. Different cultures approach meals, meal sizes, and meal times in different ways. How is that any different than an individual eating by their own schedule?

But when you get down to it, this isn't even about food. If there's any pathological component to this scenario, it would be the inability to keep track of time and/or sensory differences that don't trigger sensations (such as hunger) in the same way as neurotypicals. Which we're already well aware of. Having an unusual eating schedule is just one way that these differences manifest.

NoFun4You@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y (2 replies)

No no. I it must be autism

frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I honestly have no idea what this is in response to. It doesn't make sense to me in the context of this thread.

NoFun4You@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y

Idk man, It's sarcasm of sorts.

that man must be wrong because autism! /S

frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe · -2 pts · 1y

That's not what was described in the post. What was described in the post is deliberate, and is indeed an eating disorder. I'll happily be corrected by a professional who knows better than I. I won't take your word for it that it's actually healthy mmkay.

FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io · 11 pts · 1y

Yeah, that is not how I roll: All day graze with possible actual meals, possibly even at normal times that people eat!

Telorand@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 1y (1 reply)

That's called OMAD! Just tell people you're doing Intermittent Fasting (of which OMAD is a specific way to do it).

metaStatic@kbin.earth · 9 pts · 1y

Intermittent FEASTING

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y

Or the old deciding I need to eat, getting up and going to the kitchen, seeing a chore that needs done to unlock the ability to eat certain foods, like I want ramen but my pots are on the drying rack, then realizing after I had been sitting down again for an hour that I just put away everything on the drying rack and forgot to cook and eat the ramen.

Then get up, go to the kitchen, and notice that the plants need to be watered...

curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 1y

I'll have you know I had some cereal for lunch, so its two meals today.

(Fuck me I really need to get my official diagnosis - I'm waiting for an appt)

Shadow@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1y

I'm in this photo and I don't like it.

Dagnet@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y

One Meal to rule them all, One Meal to find them, One Meal to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them

twinnie@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 1y (5 replies)

For breakfast I can get a whole socially acceptable meal by pouring milk over cereal, and then I can wash up by running it under a tap. I’m not missing an opportunity like that.

FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io · 7 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Let me tell you about breakfast shakes...

quinceyBones@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Let me tell you about breakfast shake shits.

FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io · 1 pts · 1y

I have not experienced those but they do not sound fun.

peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Ok so not kidding I just started doing these since my doctor got concerned about the weight I was losing, and holy fucking shit they are AWESOME.

Cookies and Cream, Cookie Dough, Chocolate, Cinnamon Roll... I wish I knew about these decades ago

FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1y

Dark Chocolate Atkins are my jam.

Nemo@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I can't be the only one who eats an entire loaf of cinnamon raisin bread the moment I wake up, then isn't hungry the rest of the day

Batmancer@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y

That sounds amazing. I wish I had that appetite in the morning.

HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone · 8 pts · 1y

Yum, snakemeal. Mine is pasta tonight

Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 1y

Thanks for reminding me, I should eat something today before I crash for the night.

stinerman@midwest.social · 7 pts · 1y

Happened today for the first time in a while. I was too busy with other stuff and then realized around 6pm that I was really hungry and oh I hadn't ate yet today.

Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

Many ADHD meds have a appetite suppression side effect, which sometimes tapers off. Sometimes not so much.

fakir@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y

Yo what the fuck, stop telling on me

kitnaht@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I only do it because I grew up poor and was forced to eat everything put on my plate, because to waste it was basically a sin greater than murder. As you can imagine, that's a trait that doesn't work well as an adult, and it's incredibly hard to break.

Lemminary@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

My mother is like that. She's not fat but will compulsively eat because of it even if she's full. My grandparents beat that into her and you can see the trauma. :/

Ioughttamow@fedia.io · 5 pts · 1y

Over the last few weeks I switched from the one meal to all day grazing Edit: I like the one meal a lot better

Kolanaki@yiffit.net · 5 pts · 1y

DAE rotate between The One Meal and I Am a Grazing Gazelle? Some days I just have the one big meal and nothing else; other days I just eat crackers and fruit and cheese all day.

FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Happy the One Meal to you too, although mine is picked at all through the night

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

Same. No breakfast, no lunch, no appetite. But when I get back home from work, it's basically one long grazing period until it's time to go to bed. A few baby carrots here, a few chips there, maybe a sandwich or a salad. The only times I have an actual, full "meal" are when I'm having a sit-down meal with others, like going out to dinner.

I am also somewhat surprised - I didn't realize this was an AuDHD trait. I love discovering new things from this community.

Tarkcanis@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

I feel called out...

frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y

And a pleasant The One Meal to you too.

Milddirection@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y

I eat enough to not feel hungry long enough to fall asleep

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y

News to me that we all do this.

TangledRockets@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Ouch. Do love that one meal tho

Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

What? But Oreo Megastuff cookies exist

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y

Phrasing!

Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y

I want to eat more, but always forget to!

Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

That's just the Caveman Diet. I'm neither autistic nor have ADHD and that's been my food method for decades. No breakfast, sandwich at lunch, banquet in the evening.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I didn't know cavemen had milled grains.

PineRune@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

There are only two qualifications for being a Cave Man, and level of technological advancement is not among them.

Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y

TIL I am a caveman.

xmunk@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Binge eating in the evening is awful for you. If you forget to eat frequently then switch to having a heavy breakfast so those calories are available to your body through the day.

kungen@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Source?

xmunk@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y (2 replies)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9010393/

Basically, your metabolism and caloric needs are highest in the middle of the day, eating heavy meals in the evening means a lot of that food is converted into body fats and processed while you sleep which impairs your rest. Also, instead of being available as easily accessed calories when you're active the body needs to convert that energy from fats which generally causes more sluggishness and lower activity during the day. It's a good idea to eat before (but not right before) you're active.

EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Summary

When meals are eaten, in relation to the time of day, is increasingly considered of importance when implementing dietary change in order to address the growing burden of obesity, although further research is required in order to determine optimal patterns.

That study is more focused on weight gain and not really about the effect on sleep. Sleep is mentioned, but in reference as a co-contributer.

I've done OMAD (eat at night) for close to 15 years and have always been on the lower end of my BMI ratio and other than walking between buildings at work, no real exercise. To gain any weight, I would have to eat 4,500-5,000kcal/day. My sleep has also always been the same throughout my life regardless of eating style. (it may have even improved with my eating style)

xmunk@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y

I'm quite happy that's working well for you. Nutrition is pretty highly personal and different people will thrive on different diets - the study I linked above would be relevant to weight, quality of life and quality of sleep over the long term - and its designed to measure general trends in the population which may differ from individuals.

If your approach is good for you that's excellent - but, generally speaking, fasting with a large evening meal is worse for most folks than fasting with a large morning or midday meal.

affiliate@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y

i’ve recently been started doing One Meals a little differently. i now get a big pan and add in basically every kind of food i should be eating throughout the day (fruits, vegetables, eggs, tofu, etc.) and cook it with a bit of oil and seasoning. i then add a bunch of spicy stuff to mask the taste, and sometimes add in yogurt to make it last longer and undo some of the spicy. i can then just scoop this into a bowl and heat it up in the microwave anytime during the day when i get hungry. it’s still One Meal, but it now lasts upwards of 3 days and i nibble away at it as needed.

tagginator@utter.online · 0 pts · 1y
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