Links re: Ottawa. Can't answer your questions from personal experience but these folks should have some answers. There's some emails along with phone numbers.
Anybody who has more resources for Ottawa, feel free to add them to this comment - what I have above is men focused, I know there's other options for women and youth.
And if you can't physically get there as often as you'd like, most have a great collection of digital resources for ebooks, newspapers, film, etc. etc. that are pretty awesome.
That's ok - upon a few relistens, I don't think it's the strongest song on the album. Like the instrumentation but get the sing-song bit.
And hey, I know I'm not personally judging comments on depth and originality! All comments are good comments, we're just happy you're here and hearing this stuff :)
Congratulations, you have now introduced me to Thee Ultra Bimboos and I will be forever grateful. Deep pool of stuff with this venue, excellent comment!
Edit: Holy shit, this place has been around forever! Found some stuff from a DVD rip for a show in 1974. God damn, thanks dude!
Will probably update as I think of more/add common genre family tags. If other Ottawans (the like between three or five of you I know are here) see this and want to add something, particularly for the defunct list, let me know.
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada🇨🇦
Active
House of Targ
Dominion Tavern
Rainbow Bistro
Irene's
Gabba Hey (active-ish, kinda sorta)
Cafe Nostalgica
Overflow Brewing Company
Bronson Centre (usually slightly bigger, by my definition, acts)
Avant Garde Bar (may need to phrase as Avant-Garde Bar sometimes)
Jazz@248 (also search Jazz 248 or Jazz248)
The Twenty Seven Club
Meow! That's Hot
Minotaure (technically Hull but I'm adding it)
Live on Elgin
Red Bird
Defunct
Cafe Dekcuf
Barrymore's
Brass Monkey
Ask a Punk (noted there might be some newer stuff tagged with this anyway)
Pressed Cafe (there was actually a series on local cable called 'Live at Pressed', if memory serves)
Zaphod Beeblebrox (also search just Zaphod's)
Cinqhole
Glue Pot Pub (there's also one in Australia you may get footage from)
I really want to know more about these specific people you've run into this with, particularly age, education level, and maybe political affliations (curious if it runs the gamut or not).
For my part, Wikipedia's usually a good starting point 'source', like an encyclopedia would be. But the actual sources referenced by a given article, carefully evaluated, are much better. A Google Search (once you scroll past the AI summary) can also yield good sources. I don't bother with LLMs at all, too many issues with accuracy.
End of the day, these are all signposts to actual sources, not sources themselves. What you find through any of them need to be evaluated by where they are getting their information. It also depends on the topic and level of discussion. I'm personally OK with quoting Wikipedia about a general piece of trivia, but if I'm trying to make a serious argument about something it'd be silly to rely on it if I don't know how strong the source behind it is. Could be well-researched and rock solid, could be bullshit with a flimsy reference no one's caught yet.
I feel like this is something I'd hear discussed on the Park After Dark podcast (Trailer Park Boys thing, now with 100% less Bubbles for obvious reasons)
Herein lies the rub - it is very difficult to determine if a given metal health condition is truly irremediable, to the point that the state should authorize physicians to help patients suffering from treatment-resistant cases end their lives, compared to other conditions.
I've always been torn about MAID in this regard. I do truly think that the ability to end one's own life is a question of the right to bodily autonomy, a fundamental right from which all others spring. And obviously, it's better to accomplish this in the least painful, most dignified way possible if someone makes that choice.
But at the same time, how many people who have had treatment-resistant mental health conditions but eventually found a successful course of treatment, and are living content lives today, would no longer be with us if we set the bar too low? What diagnostic criteria can be set to definitively state a given patient will live this way and suffer the same or worse between the time they ask for MAID and the time of their natural death?
I don't know - I wrestle with the ethical implications here. Happy to hear others' perspectives on this.
Just when I thought I was done with it forever, back to topics in Digital Humanities I go. Surely differences in generational attitudes towards AI art is something someone in a DH department has been diving deep on these days...
Thanks to certain personalities in the fediverse, I can now appreciate this joke. I feel like I've been let into a club.
Why do you think that? It's as easy as striking up a short conversation with a waiter at a restaurant or someone at a coffee shop.
If someone chooses one tent pole thing to check out and otherwise just putzes around it doesn't seem all that strange.
Read this, quite literally did a cartwheel in an act of whimsy and solidarity against the encroaching darkness before responding.
(It was actually kind of fun and my back only hurts a tiny bit. One handed cartwheels used to be the preferred move, but fuck no).
Damn I wish I could be a ninja...
Links re: Ottawa. Can't answer your questions from personal experience but these folks should have some answers. There's some emails along with phone numbers.
https://ottawamission.com/programs/emergency-shelter/
https://www.sghottawa.com/
http://www.ottawaboothcentre.org/?ID=55
https://211central.ca/record/93528421/
Anybody who has more resources for Ottawa, feel free to add them to this comment - what I have above is men focused, I know there's other options for women and youth.
And if you can't physically get there as often as you'd like, most have a great collection of digital resources for ebooks, newspapers, film, etc. etc. that are pretty awesome.
Use ALL of what the library has to offer!
That's ok - upon a few relistens, I don't think it's the strongest song on the album. Like the instrumentation but get the sing-song bit.
And hey, I know I'm not personally judging comments on depth and originality! All comments are good comments, we're just happy you're here and hearing this stuff :)
You can get cans at Dollaramas in ON for sure, but you're right, I haven't seen the canister-style bottles for a looong time.
Used to drink unhealthy amounts of that shit.
I LOVE Morel Orel. It's shockingly heavy shit. Alone in particular fucking killed me.
Congratulations, you have now introduced me to Thee Ultra Bimboos and I will be forever grateful. Deep pool of stuff with this venue, excellent comment!
Edit: Holy shit, this place has been around forever! Found some stuff from a DVD rip for a show in 1974. God damn, thanks dude!
Not everyone likes your country-fried music, Bluegrass_Addict!
(This is a joke, good to hear from you dude. You are right, this is a glaring omission and has been rectified).
Unfortunately, I've only heard legends about Zaphods, missed the boat on that one personally. Lots of band footage on the web though!
Well whaddya know, we just got one of those ourselves! History Ottawa.
Will probably update as I think of more/add common genre family tags. If other Ottawans (the like between three or five of you I know are here) see this and want to add something, particularly for the defunct list, let me know.
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada🇨🇦
Active
House of Targ
Dominion Tavern
Rainbow Bistro
Irene's
Gabba Hey (active-ish, kinda sorta)
Cafe Nostalgica
Overflow Brewing Company
Bronson Centre (usually slightly bigger, by my definition, acts)
Avant Garde Bar (may need to phrase as Avant-Garde Bar sometimes)
Jazz@248 (also search Jazz 248 or Jazz248)
The Twenty Seven Club
Meow! That's Hot
Minotaure (technically Hull but I'm adding it)
Live on Elgin
Red Bird
Defunct
Cafe Dekcuf
Barrymore's
Brass Monkey
Ask a Punk (noted there might be some newer stuff tagged with this anyway)
Pressed Cafe (there was actually a series on local cable called 'Live at Pressed', if memory serves)
Zaphod Beeblebrox (also search just Zaphod's)
Cinqhole
Glue Pot Pub (there's also one in Australia you may get footage from)
First video I saw was for Electric Riders - oh fuck yeah bud, thank you!
I really want to know more about these specific people you've run into this with, particularly age, education level, and maybe political affliations (curious if it runs the gamut or not).
For my part, Wikipedia's usually a good starting point 'source', like an encyclopedia would be. But the actual sources referenced by a given article, carefully evaluated, are much better. A Google Search (once you scroll past the AI summary) can also yield good sources. I don't bother with LLMs at all, too many issues with accuracy.
End of the day, these are all signposts to actual sources, not sources themselves. What you find through any of them need to be evaluated by where they are getting their information. It also depends on the topic and level of discussion. I'm personally OK with quoting Wikipedia about a general piece of trivia, but if I'm trying to make a serious argument about something it'd be silly to rely on it if I don't know how strong the source behind it is. Could be well-researched and rock solid, could be bullshit with a flimsy reference no one's caught yet.
Imma go ahead and say Bank St and wait to be proven wrong (think it actually is though).
Edit: I'm technically wrong, it's Dwyer Hill Road at 70 km long. Stupid amalgamation...
Mountain climbing? Maybe.
Cave diving? Nope nope nope, fuck that. Fuck spelunking too if it involves more than crouching a little bit.
I feel like this is something I'd hear discussed on the Park After Dark podcast (Trailer Park Boys thing, now with 100% less Bubbles for obvious reasons)
Herein lies the rub - it is very difficult to determine if a given metal health condition is truly irremediable, to the point that the state should authorize physicians to help patients suffering from treatment-resistant cases end their lives, compared to other conditions.
I've always been torn about MAID in this regard. I do truly think that the ability to end one's own life is a question of the right to bodily autonomy, a fundamental right from which all others spring. And obviously, it's better to accomplish this in the least painful, most dignified way possible if someone makes that choice.
But at the same time, how many people who have had treatment-resistant mental health conditions but eventually found a successful course of treatment, and are living content lives today, would no longer be with us if we set the bar too low? What diagnostic criteria can be set to definitively state a given patient will live this way and suffer the same or worse between the time they ask for MAID and the time of their natural death?
I don't know - I wrestle with the ethical implications here. Happy to hear others' perspectives on this.
Just when I thought I was done with it forever, back to topics in Digital Humanities I go. Surely differences in generational attitudes towards AI art is something someone in a DH department has been diving deep on these days...