Physicist May Have Solved The Grandfather of All Time-Travel Paradoxes
https://www.sciencealert.com/physicist-may-have-solved-the-grandfather-of-all-time-travel-paradoxes
https://www.sciencealert.com/physicist-may-have-solved-the-grandfather-of-all-time-travel-paradoxes
26 Comments
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 1y
This the paradox where you go back in time and fuck your grandfather, right?
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 1y
No, it's the one where you fuck your grandmother because the man you thought was your grandfather was an in-the-closet homosexual. Then you produce your father, who then produces you. But you've got to travel 1,000 years into the future and hook up with a hot but socially awkward cyclops mutant before you can do any of that.
flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 1y
I did do the nasty in the past-y.
finley@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 1y
Twofacetony@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Fry you dope
Kolanaki@yiffit.net · 4 pts · 1y
Verily. And that past nastification is what shields you from the brains!
finley@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 1y
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
I don't remember murdering my grandfather. Trust me, if you'd known him, it would have been on your bucket list too.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Is there a translation for Community College grads?
iceonfire1@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Translation: following time travel, everything resets to exactly as it was before time travel.
Not exactly groundbreaking, considering this is assumed by the premise of a closed timeline curve.
ProjectPatatoe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
A quick skim of what you copied makes me think of Steins;Gate lol
Krudler@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
This is bullshit.
Tedesche@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 1y
Says the random person on the internet in response to the quantum physics professor who says otherwise.
Krudler@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
I take it you did not read the article.
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
I did, actually. So, what makes it “bullshit?”
Dasus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Dude.
First off, it's purely a hypothetical model. You can plop in negative time to equations and have them make sense, this doesn't mean that negative time is possible.
However disregarding that. The abstract of the study:
So the study the article is based on concludes that time-travel paradoxes are impossible. Thus you can not kill your own grandfather because it'd create a paradox. What they're saying is that you could be in a CTC (closed time-like curve) where in which time goes back and forth from your grandparents to you and back again, but the time going back would reduced entropy ie reverse things.
So you couldn't "go back" because that'd mean your entropy ie your arrow of time, was still pointing forwards and not backwards.
This isn't a case of some random Lemming against a professor saying otherwise. It's Lemmings telling you you've bought into pop-science sensationalism.
The article does actually communicate what I explained there, but really almost hides it with the language, so I'm not surprised your either didn't read it, missed it, or didn't internalise it:
Ie nothing here is breaking the Novikov self-consistency principle
eran_morad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
And you’re the arbiter of what constitutes “popsci bullshit” rather than the quantum physics professor? Such hubris.
eran_morad@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1y
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
In my experience, people with rational reasons for rejecting claims can articulate said reasons, rather than simply calling them bullshit and telling other people to fuck off. I’m not convinced of the article’s claims, but I’m also not convinced you know what you’re talking about either. The difference is that the article admits its claims are speculative and hypothetical, while you’re just slinging insults.
eran_morad@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1y
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
It read to me like they provided a reason for denying causality though: that the associative breakdown in entropic state suggests causality can be violated. I don’t have the expertise to evaluate that claim, but if you do, why don’t you just explain to me why it’s wrong? Or is that demanding too much of a random person on the internet?
teft@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Reality_Suit@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
I thought there was an understanding of infinite timelines already. You can never change your past. As soon as you do, it is no longer "your" past. It is now another you's past. That's why time travel is useless unless it's not you changing your past.
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
That hasn’t been proven yet. All of this shit is still theoretical. AFAIK, time travel into the past isn’t possible in our current understanding of physics.
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Or it’s a recording and we can view it but not interact.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Depends on whether you subscribe to the many worlds interpretation or not.
If not then you can still time travel as long as it follows the Novikov self-consistency principle
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Smoke a joint of Purple Haze and it'll do the same thing.
over_clox@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Thanks for the reminder, I got some green, yay!