Obviously you are meant to place trebuchets along the route and be shot from one to the next. With exact timing you could even use another trebuchet to slow you down each time.
I think it would be most effective to drive over the trebuchets with the tank. Simply roll over a wheel or support, and the launcher will be misaligned and unable to fire. Tanks are mobile, and trebuchets are not.
M1 Abrams: Requires an advanced economy plus an army of General Dynamics contractors for maintenance
Trebuchet: Can be completely repaired by one hammer-wielding villager
Plus, I assume that tanks count as a cavalry archer unit, which means any old monk can start converting them. Meanwhile trebuchets can't be converted until your enemy researches redemption at the monastery.
in AOEIII artillery are siege weapons so I think tanks would count as that, I remember getting my onagers converted in AOE but I don't remember if that's a thing in AOEII
In the older civ games, unit stacking was a thing. The maintenance would be costly and you might break the game with some kind of unit cap, but I think the trebuchets would eventually win.
I play freeciv which is civ 3.5. Unit stacking is a thing and a stack of whatever can defeat whatever
Incidentally I like to give competing civilizations railway technology so when I attack them I can easily overrun all their big cities in a single turn
36 Comments
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 1y
Uh, yes, actually.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 35 pts · 1y
I'm not going to drive a trebuchet to my kids' school to pick them up.
taladar@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 1y
Obviously you are meant to place trebuchets along the route and be shot from one to the next. With exact timing you could even use another trebuchet to slow you down each time.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 8 pts · 1y
Of course not, that would be silly. You can just launch your kid into the school with a trebuchet and avoid rush hour traffic!
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
The return trip is more tricky though. Maybe launch a trebuchet for the return trip?
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1y
Wouldn't the Abrams run out of fuel (not to mention ammo) before it could take out all those trebuchets?
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1y
It could just run them over. Fuel probably depends on how far apart your place the trebuchets.
raltoid@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
If you're close enough to drive through them, you might as well just swing by the camp of personnel operating them and supplying ammo.
And009@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 1y
Or you know, kill the humans under open sky operating trebuchet
copd@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I think it would be most effective to drive over the trebuchets with the tank. Simply roll over a wheel or support, and the launcher will be misaligned and unable to fire. Tanks are mobile, and trebuchets are not.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
We can modernize a little. Let's slap an e-bike on it and get that thing moving!
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 1y
For sure, the unit cap impact alone sells the abrams.
expatriado@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 1y
bad math, trebuchet is 200 gold AND 200 wood, unless you're in a civ with gold or wood discount
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
This is a Canadian instance, so I'm pretty sure the wood discount applies.
CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 37 pts · 1y
M1 Abrams: Requires an advanced economy plus an army of General Dynamics contractors for maintenance
Trebuchet: Can be completely repaired by one hammer-wielding villager
Plus, I assume that tanks count as a cavalry archer unit, which means any old monk can start converting them. Meanwhile trebuchets can't be converted until your enemy researches redemption at the monastery.
lowered_lifted@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y
in AOEIII artillery are siege weapons so I think tanks would count as that, I remember getting my onagers converted in AOE but I don't remember if that's a thing in AOEII
hexabs@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
That's correct. Bombard cannons require the monk to straight up whisper in the crouching dude's ear for conversion.
In my headcanon, it's probably because bombard operators are deaf with all that blasting.
hexabs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
*headcannon
Sigh.. missed opportunities
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 1y
Do they come with the required manpower though?
Crew of 4 for the tank. Crew of... thousands? To move and use 541 trebuchets?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y
Easy, slap an ebike on it and you cut it down to one per trebuchet.
psud@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Many thousands if they're traction trebuchets
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 1y
At that price, everyone should have a trebuchet!
higgsboson@dubvee.org · 2 pts · 1y
You mean you don't??
taiyang@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
In the older civ games, unit stacking was a thing. The maintenance would be costly and you might break the game with some kind of unit cap, but I think the trebuchets would eventually win.
psud@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
I play freeciv which is civ 3.5. Unit stacking is a thing and a stack of whatever can defeat whatever
Incidentally I like to give competing civilizations railway technology so when I attack them I can easily overrun all their big cities in a single turn
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 4 pts · 1y
If only ceramic armor had an answer for the minimum damage limit.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
Not enough wololo.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
If anything there's been too much of that shit lately
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 1y
I’ll accept your concept if you’ll sell me 200 gold for 11,457 dollars
IMongoose@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Risky for you to not include any units of gold. I think I've got at least 200mg of gold around my finger I will gladly trade for $11,457 USD.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -8 pts · 1y
Yes, a meme about an M1 Abrams, denoted in USD, is going to use a fractional metric unit 🙄
What a moronic paintsniffer
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
👊🔥🇺🇸
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
I'll offer one better: 200 pieces of gold. Now where did I put my gold flakes...
yesman@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Adjusted for market, 200gold is $8M
Agility0971@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
What if the trebuchets threw dragons teeth instead of ball shaped rocks ?
Leeks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Just open chat and type “how do you turn this on” and get the best of both worlds for free*!
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