Ukraine adds Bacardi to its list of international war sponsors

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4147524-ukraine-adds-bacardi-to-its-list-of-international-war-sponsors/

Ukraine’s national anti-corruption agency added Bacardi Limited to its list of international war sponsors, citing the company’s continued business and tax payments in Russia.

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NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.de · 69 pts · 3y (3 replies)

Link to full list: https://sanctions.nazk.gov.ua/en/boycott/

With Unilever, Mondelez and Procter & Gamble on that list, shopping for groceries and hygiene products might get complicated if you actually want to boycott all of them.

Feels weird to not see Nestlé on a list of big (food) companies doing questionable things.

raltoid@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Mondelez and Unilever has their fingers in in so much stuff that even if you're trying to boycott them you probably aren't.

For reference here is an incomplete list of Mondelez brands:

  • 5 Star
  • Cadbury
  • Clorets
  • Côte d'Or
  • Daim
  • Freia
  • Halls
  • Marabou (chocolate)
  • Maynards Bassetts
  • Milka
  • Nabisco
  • Philadelphia Cream Cheese
  • Royal Baking Powder Company
  • Sour Patch Kids
  • Stride (gum)
  • Tang
  • Toblerone
  • Twisties
  • Velveeta
  • Vizzolini

Some major subcompanies:

  • Kraft Foods - All the groceries they produce
  • Nabisco - Belvita, Chips Ahoy!, Nutter Butter, Oreo, Ritz Crackers, Shredded Wheat, Triscuit, Wheat thins, etc.

And much more.


Unilever brands they own or control part of(Will be very incomplete, since they own an insane amount of companies):

  • Ben & Jerry's
  • Breyers
  • Calippo
  • Fudgesicle
  • Klondike
  • Popsicle
  • Weis
  • Wall's

  • Knorr
  • Hellman's
  • Maizena
  • Pfanni
  • Pot Noodle

  • Jif/Cif
  • Lipton
  • Comfort
  • Omo

  • Axe
  • Brylcreem
  • Clear
  • Close-Up
  • Dollar Shave Club
  • Dove
  • Elida Beauty
  • Lux/Caress
  • Noxzema
  • Pepsodent
  • Pond's
  • Q-Tips
  • Radox
  • Rexona/Degree
  • Schimdt's Natural
  • Seventh Generation
  • Signal
  • Simple
  • Thermasilk
  • Vaseline

Loads more, in addition to many of them, like Elide Beuaty, have multiple sub-companies/brands.

PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 3y

Ben & Jerry's was shocking. I don't eat their ice cream or follow them, but from their online presence it seemed like they were privately owned by the "good guys."

Is Patagonia still safe?

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -37 pts · 3y

Nazis are going to stink.

blazera@kbin.social · 22 pts · 3y (10 replies)

You hate to be an alcohol producer when the russia sanctions start

tal@kbin.social · 11 pts · 3y (9 replies)

Ehhh...I dunno. Russia also produces grain, and I bet that means that they produce alcohol.

goes looking

https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/explore?country=186&queryLevel=location&product=837&year=2021&productClass=HS&target=Product&partner=undefined&startYear=undefined

https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/explore?country=186&queryLevel=location&product=837&year=2021&tradeDirection=import&productClass=HS&target=Product&partner=undefined&startYear=undefined

Okay, so based on liquors, in 2021, $212 million in exports, $832 million in imports.

Beer is $141 million in exports, $361 million in imports.

Wine is $11.5 million in exports, $842 million in imports.

So, yeah, you're right, I guess -- unless I've missed some sort of category of drink -- that Russia's definitely a net importer of alcoholic beverages.

KevonLooney@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 3y (5 replies)

Who tf is importing Russian wine? They should be in the Hague just for trying to push that on the world.

tal@kbin.social · 6 pts · 3y (3 replies)

https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/explore?country=186&queryLevel=location&product=833&year=2021&productClass=HS&target=Product&partner=undefined&startYear=undefined

This is for 2021; I suspect that a few numbers have likely changed significantly.

  • 42.75% of Russian wine exports went to Ukraine.

  • 11.52% to China.

  • 11.12% of Kazakhstan

  • 8% to Belarus

  • 5.22% to Latvia

I'm gonna stop at 5%, but you can go look at the treemap if you want more detail (like I said, though, the entire exports in 2021 were $11.5 million, so it's not a whole lot...I would guess that the numbers could be pretty noisy from year to year).

jscummy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 3y (1 reply)

It's only 165k but who on earth is importing Russian wine in France?

tal@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y

guesses

Russian restaurants in France?

googles

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g187147-d718634-Reviews-La_Cantine_Russe-Paris_Ile_de_France.html

La Cantine Russe

European,Russian, Eastern European

googles for a wine menu

https://cdn.eat-list.fr/establishment/menu/gallery_menu/75016-paris-16/la-cantine-russe_2679_40b.jpg

Yeah, they have Russian wines listed. Under the champagne section, but I'm assuming that that's a listing error, given that France has a bit of a spat with Russia over what constitutes champagne.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57733684

France has hit back at a new Russian law ordering French champagne makers to label their bottles as sparkling wine.

France has strict rules protecting its bubbly, meaning to be called champagne it must be from the French region that shares the name.

But under Russia's new law, only local producers can call their drinks "shampanskoye" - the Russian equivalent of champagne.

France's main champagne industry group called the law "unacceptable".

somethingsnappy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y

Having had a decent amount of Chinese wine, all I can say is Russian can't be worse?

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 3y

Maybe it is code for something less vile, like irradiated soil.

SheeEttin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y (1 reply)

That doesn't count alcohol produced and consumed domestically. While they might import a lot, they might produce more and drink it themselves.

tal@kbin.social · 4 pts · 3y

Yeah, true, but I wasn't trying so much to find whether there was a lot of alcohol being consumed. My aim was more to see whether Russia was a net importer or exporter, since the claim was that alcohol producers [outside Russia] would be upset with the Russian sanctions, that it would cut the producers off from the Russian market.

However, if Russia were a net exporter and you are an alcohol producer, then it'd be removing more competition than it would be closing off markets; producers would likely benefit.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y

I see not too many people outside of Russia are desperate enough to drink Russian wine, but more than I thought.

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gapbetweenus@feddit.de · -3 pts · 3y (3 replies)

That's kind of racist, but also true.

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -1 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Racism is OK when you hate a race.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y

I hate the Boston Marathon as much as the next guy but I'm not translating that into stereotypes about Malawians.

gapbetweenus@feddit.de · 0 pts · 3y

Why do you hate me?!

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -3 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Russians make their own vodka. They don't need overpriced foreign vodka.

PiousAgnostic@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Bacardi is rum

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y

Even more foreign to the traditional Russian palate, then.

SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de · 3 pts · 3y (31 replies)

What I'm feeling

It's never been so easy

When I'm dreaming

Summer Offensive dreaming

(Fuck Barcadi for that stance)

Kamikazimatt@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 3y (30 replies)

Which is crazy considering the Bacardi family had to escape from Cuba because of Castro’s takeover. So you’d think if any company would be against a hostile takeover, it would be them.

RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 3y

Well its easy. That time it affected them. This time it's not. Also money.

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haohao@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 3y (15 replies)

This BS again... I guess Americans annexed Crimea too

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -15 pts · 3y (14 replies)

Genocide is not BS. Genocide denial is.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 3y (3 replies)

Oh and fun fact, do you know who does deny a genocide? That is right it is putin! In fact it is the russian stance that the holodomor never happened.

In fact they do not like when people ever bring it up: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-condemns-german-parliament-declaring-ukraine-soviet-era-famine-genocide-2022-12-01/

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -9 pts · 3y (2 replies)

You just denied the genocide that I called out.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 3y

No we just called you on bullshit. russia has been pulling out the russiaphobia card since the USSR fell. They did it in Georga, Transnistria, Abkhazia, Dagestan, Chechnya and Ukraine.

haohao@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 3y (6 replies)

I'm not denying genocides. One of those was Holodomor, and another one started in 2022 by russia.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Well 2014 really. Also super happy the genocide is going so poorly.

haohao@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 3y

I don't think that their(russian) actions in 2014-2022 can be considered as a genocide. Terrorism and war crimes on the other hand...

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -8 pts · 3y (2 replies)

You are not only denying genocide but also denying that you are denying genocide.

whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y

That means the same thing, moron.

If he agreed that he was denying a genocide, then he would be acknowledging that there is a genocide, which is the opposite of denying it.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Pot to kettle much? What do you think russia is doing right now?

Edit to add: russia has admitted it wants to erase the Ukrainian identity itself. http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -7 pts · 3y (1 reply)

I already described what Russia is doing right now. Learn to read.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3y

You described something?

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EnderWi99in@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y (4 replies)

"The Ukraine" all you had to say for us to know you're a Russian shill. Be gone sir!

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -3 pts · 3y (3 replies)

It's just proper English.

girlfreddy@mastodon.social · 1 pts · 3y (2 replies)

@firebreathingbunny @MicroWave @SamsonSeinfelder @Kamikazimatt @EnderWi99in

And you support the Russian invasion.

Case closed.

EnderWi99in@kbin.social · 1 pts · 3y

In what universe can you draw that conclusion? I support Ukraine defending against it. This would all be over if Russia just, you know, fucked off back to its own land. So no, I don't support the Russian invasion. Nice try again there comrade. Slava Ukraini!

firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -2 pts · 3y

I support the Russian special operation against the US, Ukraine, and Nazi perpetrated genocide of ethnic Russians.

Case closed indeed.

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firebreathingbunny@kbin.social · -1 pts · 3y

The US is rich.

rockSlayer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
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SheeEttin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3y

Probably because they're relying on those weapons to stay alive

MelastSB@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 3y (1 reply)

My God! I knew it! Both Putin and Zelensky are controlled by the Global Military Industrial Complex!

can@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3y

duh

Liv2themax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y

Oh I think they have derided the Russian weapons industry plenty. One could even call the reaction "explosive".