Dream of car-free Berlin aims to end nightmare of gridlock

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/car-free-berlin-vote-referendum-germany-ccl6x5d09

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Aetherion@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y

Won‘t happening, because right-conservative „christian“-democratic-Party are in charge in the City, because of Boomers living in the suburbs of Berlin (which voted for them)

huppakee@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 1y (6 replies)

The city’s parliament is to vote on proposals to severely restrict traffic in an area roughly the size of Brighton and Hove.

Brits also love their metric units /s

vovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Its 88 km² or 1.5 Manhattans.

Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 6 pts · 1y

Or about 12,000 football fields.

psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1y (2 replies)

At least it's a known place instead of saying Yard. Like, whose yard should i use as a benchmark?

lost@lemmy.wtf · 5 pts · 1y

Henry V's, obviously.

huppakee@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y

Ikr, how about telling you how much they weigh in stones. Like which stone lady?

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 1y

In the French mertric system it would be a bit less then a Paris.

MBech@feddit.dk · 9 pts · 1y (6 replies)

I drove in Berlin a few years ago. Even when there was a lot of traffic it was super easy to get around. I had an easier time getting through Berlin than my 30k population city in Denmark.

With that said, a car-free city is obviously the better option for a whole bunch of reasons, but it just doesn't really seem to have THAT bad traffic problems.

naught101@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y (4 replies)

That's probably substantially due to the fact that it's also extremely easy to get nearly everywhere via public transport and a few minutes walking.. I'd guess car ownership is pretty low..

vovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 1y (3 replies)

202 cars / 1000 people in that city center area.

330 cars / 1000 people outside the center.

https://interaktiv.tagesspiegel.de/lab/autokarte-berlin-in-diesen-kiezen-gibt-es-die-meisten-autos/

In whole Germany it's 580 / 1000.

lost@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I'm surprised it's that low for the whole of Germany.

freebee@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y

It's not out of the ordinary for EU as a whole either.

I'm also guessing it's actually lower, almost all larger German cities are all very livable without car with fine public transport, but a lot of city people do own an old VW-van or similar for holidays, which is often not used much in regular daily life.

nomoreyknsfaf@lemmings.world · -2 pts · 1y
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Scrollone@feddit.it · 3 pts · 1y

I also think Denmark has something strange with their car infrastructure. I don't know what it is, but Danish roads feel harder to navigate. Bike paths however are top notch.