Yes1? “…the U.S. Bill of Rights, which are the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution, were heavily influenced by British law, particularly the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Many of the rights and protections outlined in the U.S. Bill of Rights have roots in British legal traditions and historical documents like Magna Carta and the English Bill of Rights…” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States)
I mean, they were racist too. I don't think that there's anything native Americans endured that Australian Aborigines didn't have just as bad. Iirc the Aborigines were legally considered "flora and fauna" or something like that.
I definitely agree, the two aren't mutually exclusive and I'm sure a majority were racist, but one is objectively cooler than the other when all else is equal
Huh. Imagine that. 20 years ago my school gave me the book True History of the Kelly Gang by Peter Carey as a graduation present and I pulled that knowledge from the deep depths of my memory. Cool.
Hell, they literally had to invent "whiteness and blackness" as racial constructs to justify continuing to enslave the African slaves that converted to Christianity.
That move is a lot older than the colonisation of Americas. There's a reason why westerners don't consider Slavs white, and it's connected to the etymology of the word "slave".
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AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 61 pts · 1y
As someone said, the problem with Australia is not that its culture is descended from convicts but that its culture is descended from jailers.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 1y
“All men are created equal. Also those men will remain my slaves.”
wer2@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 1y
Some founding father: By men we mean WASP landowners of English/French/German heritage, right?
Jefferson probably: it's so obvious it goes without saying
theUwUhugger@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
+only land owners may vote…
I never quite got the Americans obsession with the constitution, was it not largely based on british law and changed like 30 times?
deegeese@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 1y
theUwUhugger@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Yes1? “…the U.S. Bill of Rights, which are the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution, were heavily influenced by British law, particularly the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Many of the rights and protections outlined in the U.S. Bill of Rights have roots in British legal traditions and historical documents like Magna Carta and the English Bill of Rights…” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States)
Yes2? “…The U.S. Constitution has been amended 27 times…” (https://archivesfoundation.org/amendments-u-s-constitution/
-There is no borderline religius infatuation with the magna carta, nor ant other charter of rights
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
You're telling me you don't have magna carta bathing suits?
theUwUhugger@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I am not British, but of course I do! I just don’t wank it in every time
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
That's like having a supercar and never taking it to the tracks smh
GlenRambo@jlai.lu · 16 pts · 1y
Australian for father's were also racist.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
I mean... being a criminal is wayyyy cooler than being racist
0ops@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 1y
I mean, they were racist too. I don't think that there's anything native Americans endured that Australian Aborigines didn't have just as bad. Iirc the Aborigines were legally considered "flora and fauna" or something like that.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I definitely agree, the two aren't mutually exclusive and I'm sure a majority were racist, but one is objectively cooler than the other when all else is equal
banazir@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1y
Is that a Ned Kelly reference? I'm not Austrian.
Sergio@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
I saw what you did there...
absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 1y
Also not an Aussie; but yes it is.
banazir@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
Huh. Imagine that. 20 years ago my school gave me the book True History of the Kelly Gang by Peter Carey as a graduation present and I pulled that knowledge from the deep depths of my memory. Cool.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 4 pts · 1y
I've come here for a fucking shootout, right? A proper shootout with some proper men. Like Colonel Custer and Geronimo, you ever heard of them?.... Get out of me fucking way, go on, get out, go on, fuck off. Call yourself a fucking gangster. A SHOOTOUT, RIGHT, IS A FUCKING SHOOTOUT! Like a Western. WANKERS! Fucking embarrassing, wasting my time. Fucking WASTE OF MY TIME!
FundMECFS@quokk.au · 3 pts · 1y
Yet the Australian people are not much better at reckoning with the fact they live in a settler colonial state than the USians.
Sternhammer@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
People forget that America was a penal colony before Australia.
salty_chief@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
They were limited by the ignorance of their time. …….Or whatever Tony Starks dad said.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1y
Shareni@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
That move is a lot older than the colonisation of Americas. There's a reason why westerners don't consider Slavs white, and it's connected to the etymology of the word "slave".