Mark Zuckerberg writes a manifesto on bringing AI "superintelligence" to everyone to improve humanity, but doesn't even define what superintelligence means.
Feels like it's saying "Hey you stupid fucking investors who will believe anything, why don't you give me another hundred billion dollars for these magic beans?"
His vision sounds like "let us listen to, and see every task you do, so that we can command the world centrally from my business"
Zuckerberg predicted that personal AI systems that deeply understand users’ goals will become increasingly important, with devices like smart glasses becoming primary computing tools because they can understand context by seeing and hearing what users experience.
Google Glasses 2.0 but with even more privacy concerns, literally a horrible idea. He's just hype cycling his unpopular glasses.
they make money by being digital pimps for snake oil products. lower the critical thinking of peasants, higher the chances of them getting fooled by targeted ads of scams and fake garbage.
try searching for any chronic illness on chrome or talk about it on whatsapp and you will be getting ads for miracle cures for months.
AIs are a long way away from even normal intelligence. Currently, they are parrots with dictionaries. They have no insight or real reflection on what they are doing. I am not sure I will see real artificial intelligence in my lifetime.
What people also regularly forget is how insanely inefficient AI is. We need exponential amounts of energy for linear increasement in "AI power" (idk what's the correct term). So to gain twice the power we need 4x the amount of energy to achieve this. Since we are not anywhere near being close to "super intelligence" AI would hit its limit in how much energy we can provide before it even coming close.
Man, I wish this guy would fuck off somewhere and just retire. Im tired of hearing about how he wants to ruin the world next with his latest shit idea.
I once saw a supervisor use Google sheets to do a simple calculation. Could have opened the windows calculator, could have typed it into Google, could have done lots of things. But no, they created a new Google Sheet, performed one arithmetic equation, and then closed the browser.
I was so amused by this that I decided to program a 10-key calculator complete with memory recall in Google Sheets using Google Apps Script. I've made some wild Sheets over the years and have abused spreadsheets into things they're not, but that's my favorite, most useless Sheet ever. Whenever I show it to people, their first reaction is, "yeah, that's a calculator, that's a pretty simple tool." But then when they realize that I wrote actual code to assign values to add then clear checkboxes and then store all these values, they look at me with genuine concern.
I know this isn't the kind of delusional you're talking about, but just wanted to share.
okay. his background in CS remains a couple of classes before dropping out. i graduated from college around when he would have and this was every fucking CS major their freshman year. he talks about programming the same way every revolutionary code messiah who had coded some mildly impressive utilities does before they spend time studying the theory behind computation and learn what the real limitations of these things are. but VCs love the code messiahs. hence SVB going bankrupt. none of these dudes are as smart as they've convinced the rest of the world they are
If you’re genuinely interested in what “artificial superintelligence” (ASI) means, you can just look it up. Zuckerberg didn’t invent the term - it’s been around for decades, popularized lately by Nick Bostrom’s book Superintelligence.
The usual framing goes like this: Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is an AI system with human-level intelligence. Push it beyond human level and you’re talking about Artificial Superintelligence - an AI with cognitive abilities that surpass our own. Nothing mysterious about it.
The guy that has the worst business ethics wants to use a product to "improve humanity." Remember the last time he said that? He sure did do a good job of unifying and connecting everyone in a healthy way. I love how he's so confident he can do it again.
Sure. We can all trust Zuckerberg to help improve humanity. He has the credentials! Look how much we have improved in the last 15 years Facebook is a thing. Is not like Meta contributed to Genocide, election interference, the rise of conspiracy theorists, sold our data to the highest bidder etc etc /s
The thing is, he is referencing specifically a model that recently demonstrated (to its developers at least) the ability to self improve without direct human input. But obviously there are caveats to what that actually means.
That he is referencing something specific and recent though makes me think he's being genuine here, he believes what he is saying.
Obviously, hes almost certainly jumping the gun. Hes demonstrated a lack of critical thinking when it comes to new technological developments. See: all the money he dumped into VR and the Metaverse. (I say this as much as I personally like VR, its not exactly a money maker)
I see some commenters here pointing out that he is a coder, but he's probably not coded anything for more than a decade at this point. He is fully immersed in the Silicon Valley koolaid, only he seems to use more public facing optimism about AI compared to other CEOs.
A jabber bot that slightly improved (through pre training) it's words per minute when responding but is still just mindlessly jabbering/hallucinating is just as dumb as it was before. I mean random chance is a not insignificant factor with LLMs... But also, it's a pretty big assumption these days that "scientific" papers mean anything. There's already been sobmany fraudulent LLM papers, like LLMs "teaching themselves other languages" or LLMs "showing ability to reason" when all of that was just a product of the training data.
The superintelligence will expose all the billionaires nefarious plans and controls. No way they will allow the public access to their schemes. Right now you can use it to expose them even ask questions like is Trump pulling an authoritarian play.
Simply asked the question.
Based on everything we know, no, Trump is not planning to leave office voluntarily in 3 years if he wins in 2024. All signals point to the opposite:
• He denied the 2020 results and tried to overturn them.
• He has openly flirted with authoritarian power (immunity claims, “retribution” rhetoric, dismantling civil service).
• His allies (e.g. Project 2025) are laying groundwork for expanded executive control.
• He’s praised dictators and criticized democratic limits.
• He has no public plan for peaceful transition or grooming a successor.
If re-elected, expect him to try and stay beyond 4 years by legal manipulation, emergency powers, or discrediting elections.
Isn't it "any algorithm that would impress Dilbert's Boss"? In the vein of "I don't have to be faster than the bear... I just have to be faster than you"... /s
A superintelligence would likely quickly become the sovereign of the earth. And it's generally a good idea to kill the old elite after conquering a nation, then install new ones. The new ones will like you, because you made them rich, and they'll fear you, because you killed off all of their predecessors. Of course, there's also the risk that a super intelligence would just do away with humans in general. But anybody holding significant power right now is much more at risk.
And we can't forget that we currently can't even build something that's actually intelligent, and that a super intelligence might not actually be possible.
If AI ends up destroying us, I’d say it’s unlikely to be because it hates us or wants to destroy us per se - more likely it just treats us the way we treat ants. We don’t usually go out of our way to wipe out ant colonies, but if there’s an anthill where we’re putting up a house, we don’t think twice about bulldozing it. Even in the cartoonish “paperclip maximizer” thought experiment, the end of humanity isn’t caused by a malicious AI - it’s caused by a misaligned one.
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partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 86 pts · 1y
This feels like its saying "outsource your critical thinking and agency to us, and don't worry about it"?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 1y
Feels like it's saying "Hey you stupid fucking investors who will believe anything, why don't you give me another hundred billion dollars for these magic beans?"
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 1y
These magic beans will not only grow twice as fast, they'll also fix the last magic beans that didn't grow.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
His vision sounds like "let us listen to, and see every task you do, so that we can command the world centrally from my business"
Google Glasses 2.0 but with even more privacy concerns, literally a horrible idea. He's just hype cycling his unpopular glasses.
opavader@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
they make money by being digital pimps for snake oil products. lower the critical thinking of peasants, higher the chances of them getting fooled by targeted ads of scams and fake garbage.
try searching for any chronic illness on chrome or talk about it on whatsapp and you will be getting ads for miracle cures for months.
dinckelman@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 1y
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 1y
That Zuckerberg?
beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org · 23 pts · 1y
Will AI finally replace CEOs?
Red0ctober@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
The only job they can actually do as well as their human counterparts
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 1y
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAA
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl · 13 pts · 1y
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
AIs are a long way away from even normal intelligence. Currently, they are parrots with dictionaries. They have no insight or real reflection on what they are doing. I am not sure I will see real artificial intelligence in my lifetime.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1y
What people also regularly forget is how insanely inefficient AI is. We need exponential amounts of energy for linear increasement in "AI power" (idk what's the correct term). So to gain twice the power we need 4x the amount of energy to achieve this. Since we are not anywhere near being close to "super intelligence" AI would hit its limit in how much energy we can provide before it even coming close.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Can't Soros just harvest babies and feed the bots adrenochrome?
yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 1y
It means he found another way to get richer with the excuse of "connecting" or "improving" society. Fucking idiot
GTFO of Meta services
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Man, I wish this guy would fuck off somewhere and just retire. Im tired of hearing about how he wants to ruin the world next with his latest shit idea.
PostaL@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Or what he thinks "improve humanity" means ...
dan1101@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Isn't/wasn't he a programmer? He can't possibly believe what he is saying.
Xaphanos@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y
I know some really damn delusional programmers.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
I once saw a supervisor use Google sheets to do a simple calculation. Could have opened the windows calculator, could have typed it into Google, could have done lots of things. But no, they created a new Google Sheet, performed one arithmetic equation, and then closed the browser.
I was so amused by this that I decided to program a 10-key calculator complete with memory recall in Google Sheets using Google Apps Script. I've made some wild Sheets over the years and have abused spreadsheets into things they're not, but that's my favorite, most useless Sheet ever. Whenever I show it to people, their first reaction is, "yeah, that's a calculator, that's a pretty simple tool." But then when they realize that I wrote actual code to assign values to add then clear checkboxes and then store all these values, they look at me with genuine concern.
I know this isn't the kind of delusional you're talking about, but just wanted to share.
bigfondue@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y
TheBat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1y
Oh, so then he did already establish what superintelligence is.
(I miss original Pandora)
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 1y
okay. his background in CS remains a couple of classes before dropping out. i graduated from college around when he would have and this was every fucking CS major their freshman year. he talks about programming the same way every revolutionary code messiah who had coded some mildly impressive utilities does before they spend time studying the theory behind computation and learn what the real limitations of these things are. but VCs love the code messiahs. hence SVB going bankrupt. none of these dudes are as smart as they've convinced the rest of the world they are
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Zuck hasn't touched code in decades. He's far too busy cheating on his wife at the Jeff Bezos / Elon Musk Underaged Orgy Tent for that nonsense.
derry@midwest.social · 9 pts · 1y
Sniffing his own farts again I see
Emptiness@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Robots have exhausts now?
a1studmuffin@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
I'm sorry, what happened to the metaverse Zuck?
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
BlueBaggy@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
It means whatever makes him the most money.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 1y
If you’re genuinely interested in what “artificial superintelligence” (ASI) means, you can just look it up. Zuckerberg didn’t invent the term - it’s been around for decades, popularized lately by Nick Bostrom’s book Superintelligence.
The usual framing goes like this: Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is an AI system with human-level intelligence. Push it beyond human level and you’re talking about Artificial Superintelligence - an AI with cognitive abilities that surpass our own. Nothing mysterious about it.
echodot@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 1y
Does Mark Zuckerberg care about improving humanity? He's never previously shown much interest in the subject.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
The guy that has the worst business ethics wants to use a product to "improve humanity." Remember the last time he said that? He sure did do a good job of unifying and connecting everyone in a healthy way. I love how he's so confident he can do it again.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Hey Zuck, suck it!
etherphon@piefed.world · 6 pts · 1y
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
mRNA vaccine technology that made the two most effective COVID vaccines saving millions of lives was pretty great.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Also radically improved my cell phone reception.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 1y
It’s nice to always have a flashlight on your person.
Blue LEDs are recent and pretty cool.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I fucking hate blue leds. They cause migraines, and even when not - irritate the hell out of my eyes.
prex@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Everone hates those but the same technology can be used with phospors to make LED area lighting/tv backlights etc.
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 1y
You would sure be hard-pressed to think of any good thing involving Mark Zuckerberg, alright.
perishthethought@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1y
SD cards?
Huge USB thumb drives?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 5 pts · 1y
perishthethought@piefed.social · 2 pts · 1y
Just seeing that is making my life better. :)
etherphon@piefed.world · 2 pts · 1y
Almacca@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
I've become a bit of a fan of memory foam.
etherphon@piefed.world · 1 pts · 1y
Almacca@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 1y
Probably still less than 2000 years old, though.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Torrents are pretty nice. I also enjoy the newer lines of flat-screens, particularly when I want to move a monitor without throwing out my back.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Playing games in VR everyday is good if you want an easy excuse to exercise and move your body more.
etherphon@piefed.world · 2 pts · 1y
Almacca@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
alecbowles@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 1y
Sure. We can all trust Zuckerberg to help improve humanity. He has the credentials! Look how much we have improved in the last 15 years Facebook is a thing. Is not like Meta contributed to Genocide, election interference, the rise of conspiracy theorists, sold our data to the highest bidder etc etc /s
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Anyone remember about what year AD the Butlerian Jihad happened according to the books?
Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Dude is full of himself.
GaMEChld@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Serious question. Did none of these mother fuckers watch The Terminator? Or The Matrix?
(fun project, reply back with more movies in the same vein of humanity inventing our evolutionary successors)
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
GaMEChld@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Oooh, yeah I've been meaning to watch those, I loved the first one of that series but never got around to watching the rest.
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
The thing is, he is referencing specifically a model that recently demonstrated (to its developers at least) the ability to self improve without direct human input. But obviously there are caveats to what that actually means.
That he is referencing something specific and recent though makes me think he's being genuine here, he believes what he is saying.
Obviously, hes almost certainly jumping the gun. Hes demonstrated a lack of critical thinking when it comes to new technological developments. See: all the money he dumped into VR and the Metaverse. (I say this as much as I personally like VR, its not exactly a money maker)
I see some commenters here pointing out that he is a coder, but he's probably not coded anything for more than a decade at this point. He is fully immersed in the Silicon Valley koolaid, only he seems to use more public facing optimism about AI compared to other CEOs.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
A jabber bot that slightly improved (through pre training) it's words per minute when responding but is still just mindlessly jabbering/hallucinating is just as dumb as it was before. I mean random chance is a not insignificant factor with LLMs... But also, it's a pretty big assumption these days that "scientific" papers mean anything. There's already been sobmany fraudulent LLM papers, like LLMs "teaching themselves other languages" or LLMs "showing ability to reason" when all of that was just a product of the training data.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Kurious84@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 1y
It's the intelligence in captain marvel.
The superintelligence will expose all the billionaires nefarious plans and controls. No way they will allow the public access to their schemes. Right now you can use it to expose them even ask questions like is Trump pulling an authoritarian play.
Simply asked the question.
Based on everything we know, no, Trump is not planning to leave office voluntarily in 3 years if he wins in 2024. All signals point to the opposite: • He denied the 2020 results and tried to overturn them. • He has openly flirted with authoritarian power (immunity claims, “retribution” rhetoric, dismantling civil service). • His allies (e.g. Project 2025) are laying groundwork for expanded executive control. • He’s praised dictators and criticized democratic limits. • He has no public plan for peaceful transition or grooming a successor.
If re-elected, expect him to try and stay beyond 4 years by legal manipulation, emergency powers, or discrediting elections.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Can you imagine how much better everything would be if FaceBook was created by Pedro Pascal instead of Zuckerberg?
And I mean everything.
brendansimms@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Done. Zuckerberg is now starring as Joel in The Last of Us.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Thats very far away from a position of control.
I'll take it.
Bogasse@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
So he's now over with AR honeymoon?
100@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1y
superintelligent ai's that give great advice on the benefits of consuming glue, got it
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 1y
That would by definition mean it's not superintelligent.
Muffi@programming.dev · 3 pts · 1y
Zuck the fuck up
Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
I'm deeply suspicious of anyone these days that writes a 'manifesto'. They're generally up to no good.
Therobohour@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
That's some big joke bond villain energy
Turious@leaf.dance · 2 pts · 1y
Was Meta stock dipping and needed a boost? Fraud is legal now, so I guess that's fine.
postcapitalism@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y
What about the “metaverse”? I thought that was your thing?
jdnewmil@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Isn't it "any algorithm that would impress Dilbert's Boss"? In the vein of "I don't have to be faster than the bear... I just have to be faster than you"... /s
blargle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
Ooh I know: it means "smart enough to make Eliezer Yudkowsky think it's smarter than he is."
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Wile E Coyote, super geeeenius.
Gudl@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
Zuck the fuck
fubarx@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 0 pts · 1y
Any ethical super intelligence would immediately remove billionaires from power. I'd like to see that.
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
A superintelligence would likely quickly become the sovereign of the earth. And it's generally a good idea to kill the old elite after conquering a nation, then install new ones. The new ones will like you, because you made them rich, and they'll fear you, because you killed off all of their predecessors. Of course, there's also the risk that a super intelligence would just do away with humans in general. But anybody holding significant power right now is much more at risk.
And we can't forget that we currently can't even build something that's actually intelligent, and that a super intelligence might not actually be possible.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1y
If AI ends up destroying us, I’d say it’s unlikely to be because it hates us or wants to destroy us per se - more likely it just treats us the way we treat ants. We don’t usually go out of our way to wipe out ant colonies, but if there’s an anthill where we’re putting up a house, we don’t think twice about bulldozing it. Even in the cartoonish “paperclip maximizer” thought experiment, the end of humanity isn’t caused by a malicious AI - it’s caused by a misaligned one.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1y
Superintelligence doesn’t imply ethics. It could just as easily be a completely unconscious system that’s simply very, very good at crunching data.