While I agree that the teacher and the girl collaborating in a sting operation to bust the boy for a phone violation was clever... I think from a professional standpoint you need to watch out if there is a perception that you're getting "close" with your students.
It's fascinating to see the reactions of people, but I'm just stating what I think.
I'm neurodivergent and was bullied for most of the time I went to school. If I was not being bullied, I either found it too interesting, or very boring. Plus, being unpopular, I was always picked last in gym class, so at some point I started not going to those classes, and eventually dropped out of school entirely. I really felt like it was a prison where parents dump their kids while they are busy earning slave wages. And from what I hear from my nephew and friends working in schools, I'm just glad I don't have a child that also has to deal with this.
The whole concept of schools with classes of ~30ish kids with an overworked teacher trying to follow a standardized program that will not work for all kids, is... depressing.
Didn't know your story, I assumed you were just acting immature and I found it amusing to answer back with a juvenile quip. If I made you feel attacked for not understanding social clues because of your neurodivergence or something like that, I am sorry.
Oh yeah I’ve tried talking about stupid rules my school had online before only to be told I was wrong because they didn’t have to deal with it when they went to school.
Like I was talking about how we weren’t allowed to wear winter coats in the class room because it was “distracting”. And then someone got really pissy at me for it.
We also weren’t allowed to talk about negative experiences and feelings about teachers. Only allowed to be openly positive about them or else risk punishment. God forbid students warn each other about problematic teachers so they can actually have a chance.
If you didn’t go to that school during the time they say it happened or have a kid who was there, then shut up. You know nothing about what it is like, you do not know enough to be able to actually contradict them.
I've ranted about school rules and the teachers I've had on here numerous times before. One time somebody responded with something along the lines of my school admin probably being good people just trying to get through the day, and that my attitude (which developed in response to how school admin treated me) made life harder for them. Bruh. I hope I made life harder for them. If you traumatize kids to the point they still talk about the bullshit you did to them decades years later, you're clearly no saint.
As to stupid rules, my high school didn't allow water bottles. Period. Rumor was that some girl filled one with vodka and a teacher found out. Ever since, water bottles of all kinds were banned. Meanwhile, the water fountains were regularly full of trash, with kids sticking chewing tobacco and gum onto the water spouts. I refused to drink from them.
Ooh yeah, and there was no air conditioning (except in select rooms, computer lab, auditorium, and of course the offices. Can't risk letting the adults get uncomfortable now. /s) It was our normal to go the entire day without water (aside from whatever we had during our lunch) while also sweating our asses off. It's hard to express how normalized this sort of thing was, how my classmates refused to say or do anything to affect any sort of change, because they all feared "rocking the boat." Sound familiar? They'd already been trained to accept whatever authority decided for them. Which is why when I said things to call out how wrong we were being treated, it was easy for admin to single me out as a lone trouble-maker. Others saw me get punished, and further internalized the lesson of, "Just go with the flow."
Fast forward 20 years, and we have Trump as president for a second time.
I know I had another point I came here to make, but pardon me, I need to go scream into a pillow for a bit.
Only for a little longer until AI takes all the office jobs. Then schools will go back to teaching kids how to assemble iPhones and mine rare earth metals.
Those things are getting really bad in the us. I'm glad I got out so many years ago, the shit I hear now being described by students like it's normal is insane.
Nah mate, pretty sure I'll never be in a state where I want to have children. Just read his message and thought it was for the best he didn't. Also I would never use the word breeders, it makes you sound obnoxious and not very intelligent like a 14 yo.
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unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 119 pts · 1y
This shared event will bring those two together tho so its fine :)
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 96 pts · 1y
There are no stronger bonds than those forged in battle.
Windex007@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 1y
While I agree that the teacher and the girl collaborating in a sting operation to bust the boy for a phone violation was clever... I think from a professional standpoint you need to watch out if there is a perception that you're getting "close" with your students.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 1y
Lmao that is a creative take on this nice.
CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Don't stand... Don't stand so... Don't stand so close to me...
grissino@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
The very definition of entrapment ಠ_ಠ
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
the ways of a master educator are subtle and wise
pedz@lemmy.ca · 57 pts · 1y
Ah schools. Life's first taste of arbitrary rules. Some schools here are
confiscatingstealing kids' phones for a week.I'm glad I don't have children to send to those part time prisons.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 1y
pedz@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 1y
It's fascinating to see the reactions of people, but I'm just stating what I think.
I'm neurodivergent and was bullied for most of the time I went to school. If I was not being bullied, I either found it too interesting, or very boring. Plus, being unpopular, I was always picked last in gym class, so at some point I started not going to those classes, and eventually dropped out of school entirely. I really felt like it was a prison where parents dump their kids while they are busy earning slave wages. And from what I hear from my nephew and friends working in schools, I'm just glad I don't have a child that also has to deal with this.
The whole concept of schools with classes of ~30ish kids with an overworked teacher trying to follow a standardized program that will not work for all kids, is... depressing.
GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Didn't know your story, I assumed you were just acting immature and I found it amusing to answer back with a juvenile quip. If I made you feel attacked for not understanding social clues because of your neurodivergence or something like that, I am sorry.
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 1y
Oh yeah I’ve tried talking about stupid rules my school had online before only to be told I was wrong because they didn’t have to deal with it when they went to school.
Like I was talking about how we weren’t allowed to wear winter coats in the class room because it was “distracting”. And then someone got really pissy at me for it.
We also weren’t allowed to talk about negative experiences and feelings about teachers. Only allowed to be openly positive about them or else risk punishment. God forbid students warn each other about problematic teachers so they can actually have a chance.
If you didn’t go to that school during the time they say it happened or have a kid who was there, then shut up. You know nothing about what it is like, you do not know enough to be able to actually contradict them.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
I've ranted about school rules and the teachers I've had on here numerous times before. One time somebody responded with something along the lines of my school admin probably being good people just trying to get through the day, and that my attitude (which developed in response to how school admin treated me) made life harder for them. Bruh. I hope I made life harder for them. If you traumatize kids to the point they still talk about the bullshit you did to them decades years later, you're clearly no saint.
As to stupid rules, my high school didn't allow water bottles. Period. Rumor was that some girl filled one with vodka and a teacher found out. Ever since, water bottles of all kinds were banned. Meanwhile, the water fountains were regularly full of trash, with kids sticking chewing tobacco and gum onto the water spouts. I refused to drink from them.
Ooh yeah, and there was no air conditioning (except in select rooms, computer lab, auditorium, and of course the offices. Can't risk letting the adults get uncomfortable now. /s) It was our normal to go the entire day without water (aside from whatever we had during our lunch) while also sweating our asses off. It's hard to express how normalized this sort of thing was, how my classmates refused to say or do anything to affect any sort of change, because they all feared "rocking the boat." Sound familiar? They'd already been trained to accept whatever authority decided for them. Which is why when I said things to call out how wrong we were being treated, it was easy for admin to single me out as a lone trouble-maker. Others saw me get punished, and further internalized the lesson of, "Just go with the flow."
Fast forward 20 years, and we have Trump as president for a second time.
I know I had another point I came here to make, but pardon me, I need to go scream into a pillow for a bit.
OrganicMustard@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
They have to inculcate that office life culture so kids become good wage slaves as adults
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
Only for a little longer until AI takes all the office jobs. Then schools will go back to teaching kids how to assemble iPhones and mine rare earth metals.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
They do yearn for the mines though
fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Those things are getting really bad in the us. I'm glad I got out so many years ago, the shit I hear now being described by students like it's normal is insane.
GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
saimen@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
What are non arbitrary rules?
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 1y
Having kids focus on the lesson and real life socializing is not a bad thing.
Confiscating their phone for a week is not acceptable, unless they've had it confiscated till the end of the day a few times already.
brisk@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
IMO it's not acceptable regardless. The school's jurisdiction as it were ends at the door. Anything beyond that is theft.
toxicbubble@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 1y
you offended the breeders 😂
GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Nah mate, pretty sure I'll never be in a state where I want to have children. Just read his message and thought it was for the best he didn't. Also I would never use the word breeders, it makes you sound obnoxious and not very intelligent like a 14 yo.
victorz@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1y
The one that got away
everett@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 1y
The phone, that is.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
And now I need to rewatch 'chasing Amy'
abbadon420@programming.dev · 3 pts · 1y
I need to reread Misery - Stephen King
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Book better than the movie?
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I had that in my IMDb watch list apparently. Maybe I should watch it too.
infinitevalence@discuss.online · 18 pts · 1y
Malicious compliance at it's best.
pedz@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 1y
Who is maliciously complying? The teacher? The kid?
infinitevalence@discuss.online · 9 pts · 1y
The teacher, they could have issued a warning, or confiscated after the number was added.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y
That is not how that term is used.
infinitevalence@discuss.online · 0 pts · 1y
I just used it that way so clearly you are wrong :)
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y
"Properly" was implied.
Venator@lemmy.nz · 7 pts · 1y
I read this in Greg Davies voice 😂
jsomae@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
Schools are where we first learn to deal with draconian and arbitrary rules that aren't internally consistent. Jobsworth.