Half of conspiracy boy’s list is because of the US… And the JFK one just renders him without merit at all. So f’ing tired of the nonstop conspiracy sh’t people drivel. We are in a true golden age of just saying crap that sounds good to our anger.
JFK assasination is plausibly because JFK demanded investigation of Israel their stolen nukes and the CIA was heavily compromised since then by Israeli spies.
I'm not saying Israel assasinating JFK is confirmed true. I'm saying that Israel definitely had a motive for it and that Israel definitely had spies within the CIA which stole nukes for them and israel definitely didn't like Kennedy asking to investigate Israeli nukes and require the Israel lobby register as foreign agents. These things all happened facually.
To pretend like there's no connection at all is to ignore all existing evidence. There's no definite proof, but the motives are there. And it was after JFK assasination that the Israel lobby really took off within the US.
Yeah we can all get together in a room and wonder why the government is so secretive about the JFK assassination and refuses to release all the fiiles about it. It's not like the US government has a track record for crazy conspiracy theories. Like a CIA smuggling nukes to Israel and the CIA apparatus trying to bury it.
Honestly I can't really think of any another excuse they could use to send white colonialists to live in the Middle East.
If they can't put white colonialists there, the "favorite child" would have to be a nation from a local ethnicity (and, "worst", Muslim) and the whole propagandistic idea that "they have Western Values" - a slogan which carries both a "they think like us" for Liberals and a "they look like us" for Conservatives so as to get the support of both political groups - wouldn't work anywhere as well, plus there would be no group of people in the West unwaveringly supporting them entirely out of tribalism (as a large segment of the Jewish people in most Western countries support Israel no matter what).
So I totally agree with you that it would extremelly hard, maybe even impossible, to have a favored child in the Middle East that could get the level of public opinion support in the West that Israel managed to get.
I suggest you go check out how they treat Ethiopian Jews (who are Black) in Israel if you think that's a nation where all Jews are treated the same independently of their skin color - a simple search will yield you plenty articles in major newspapers about discrimination against Ethiopians in Israel and a further dig will lead you the more extreme but less talked about stuff like how at one point their were sterilizing them without their knowledge.
Israel is de facto a nation for White Jews and they sure as hell keep repeatedly blowing the white supremacists dog-whistle with their "Israel has western values" propaganda.
Imagine no religion....
Yes I know religion is secondary cause of the conflict, but fewer Theocracies is always a good thing. Plus drying up the modern pilgrimage to slavery pipeline Saudi Arabia has created would be nice too.
Antisemites use Israel as a dog whistle for Jews while also blaming everything that's wrong on the Jews. Which the second person in the screenshot does.
34 Comments
modestmeme@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 360d
Half of conspiracy boy’s list is because of the US… And the JFK one just renders him without merit at all. So f’ing tired of the nonstop conspiracy sh’t people drivel. We are in a true golden age of just saying crap that sounds good to our anger.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 360d
JFK assasination is plausibly because JFK demanded investigation of Israel their stolen nukes and the CIA was heavily compromised since then by Israeli spies.
modestmeme@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
Jesus fucking Christ you people think “plausible” = true? Prove it, any of it, a smidgen of evidence. Anything…
apftwb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
"I'm not saying Israel assassinated JFK. I'm just asking questions"
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 358d
I'm not saying Israel assasinating JFK is confirmed true. I'm saying that Israel definitely had a motive for it and that Israel definitely had spies within the CIA which stole nukes for them and israel definitely didn't like Kennedy asking to investigate Israeli nukes and require the Israel lobby register as foreign agents. These things all happened facually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI7_u99rec
To pretend like there's no connection at all is to ignore all existing evidence. There's no definite proof, but the motives are there. And it was after JFK assasination that the Israel lobby really took off within the US.
modestmeme@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 358d
Well you should hook up with all the other JFK conspiracists and hash out the wildly different but stands-to-reason perfectly plausible scenarios….
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 358d
Yeah we can all get together in a room and wonder why the government is so secretive about the JFK assassination and refuses to release all the fiiles about it. It's not like the US government has a track record for crazy conspiracy theories. Like a CIA smuggling nukes to Israel and the CIA apparatus trying to bury it.
modestmeme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 358d
They did release the files. It was Oswald.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 358d
A large portion are witheld.
Surely if there was nothing to hide we'd have seen this stuff a long time ago.
burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 358d
You’re not a genocidal maniac = true? prove it, any of it, a smidgen of evidence. Anything…
Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 359d
bobo@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 360d
Half?
pennomi@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 360d
Armio2@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 360d
They would definately try, but its really hard to find another child like Israel.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 359d
Honestly I can't really think of any another excuse they could use to send white colonialists to live in the Middle East.
If they can't put white colonialists there, the "favorite child" would have to be a nation from a local ethnicity (and, "worst", Muslim) and the whole propagandistic idea that "they have Western Values" - a slogan which carries both a "they think like us" for Liberals and a "they look like us" for Conservatives so as to get the support of both political groups - wouldn't work anywhere as well, plus there would be no group of people in the West unwaveringly supporting them entirely out of tribalism (as a large segment of the Jewish people in most Western countries support Israel no matter what).
So I totally agree with you that it would extremelly hard, maybe even impossible, to have a favored child in the Middle East that could get the level of public opinion support in the West that Israel managed to get.
zululove@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 359d
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 359d
I suggest you go check out how they treat Ethiopian Jews (who are Black) in Israel if you think that's a nation where all Jews are treated the same independently of their skin color - a simple search will yield you plenty articles in major newspapers about discrimination against Ethiopians in Israel and a further dig will lead you the more extreme but less talked about stuff like how at one point their were sterilizing them without their knowledge.
Israel is de facto a nation for White Jews and they sure as hell keep repeatedly blowing the white supremacists dog-whistle with their "Israel has western values" propaganda.
zululove@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 359d
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 360d
World without US?
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 358d
Give it time...
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 358d
Uh... I appreciate the sentiment, but a lot of this stemmed out from late stage imperialism and WW1.
AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 358d
PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 360d
Imagine no religion.... Yes I know religion is secondary cause of the conflict, but fewer Theocracies is always a good thing. Plus drying up the modern pilgrimage to slavery pipeline Saudi Arabia has created would be nice too.
JustJack23@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 360d
Religion is the excuse, not the cause.
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 359d
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 359d
No, only Zionists say that
Armio2@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 360d
The thing is many people who are fighting and are against zionism have a religion too. palestinians have a religion too.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 360d
People will use another excuse to commit massacres
Makhno@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 360d
Sounds like an excuse for shitty, murderous imaginary friends
Maeve@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 360d
Patriotism, clan, tribe, gang, looks, ability, gender...
Piperpiper1@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 358d
This is one of those instances where a comment gives away a poster's race.
::: spoiler spoiler 🫵 Cracker :::
zululove@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 359d
We have to stop them
newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml · -21 pts · 359d
Pretty rare to see actual antisemitism showcased on this sub...
Revan343@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 359d
Opposing Israel is not antisemitic; equating Israel with jews in general is, though
burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org · 10 pts · 358d
It’s antisemitic to blame Jews for the actions of the Zionist entity
newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 358d
Antisemites use Israel as a dog whistle for Jews while also blaming everything that's wrong on the Jews. Which the second person in the screenshot does.
Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 359d
You do know that Palestinians are a semitic people too, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
Tetragrade@leminal.space · -3 pts · 359d
"Muslims aren't a race"-tier slopinion.
(ACAB Free Palestine)
Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 358d
You don't make sense... Nobody but you, have mentioned muslims, but hey... feel free to be a troll.