Aceticon

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Seriously insane anti-intellectualist culture were one's correctness is measured by how confident and loud one proclaims one's "facts" and how famous one is, rather than by being or not an expert in an applicable domain.

You see that shit even amongst people who think they're leftwing - notice the frequent parroting of some shit or other said by showbiz celebrities as long as it aligns with one's beliefs. (Sorry but an Acting Professional isn't really an authoritative source for jack shit anything outside their expert domain in showbiz, even if one agrees with what they say, hence their words on other subjects should be treated as having the same weight as those of any other random non-expert).

The German government is apparently blocking EU Sanctions to Israel but that's because it's pretty easy to block things in the EU.

Making the EU actually do things (such as banning this band from entering the Schengen zone) on the other hand is way more difficult since the other ones can block it (which Spain would almost certainly do it on this subject and many others would do simply because they're against blocking people to enter the EU just because one EU nation's government discords with them politically - the bullcrap about criticism of Israel being anti-semitism has very little traction in most of the EU and apparently judging by recent news it has no traction even in the German Justice system).

I would say you're in the right track but wrong direction: it's more that people who kill government officials mid-negotiation and do not at all abide by what they've agreed with in the past, aren't seen as reliable to negotiate with.

So it's not that they can't on the Iranian side after the US killed government officials find somebody who is "reliable to negotiate a piece", it's the other way around: nobody on the Iranian side now believes that the US with a Trump Administration is "reliable to negotiate a piece" with.

I would say that the ultimate impact on Mankind of Climate Change is itself outside the scope of Climatology by itself - by its own nature it would be an interdisciplinary effort involving at the very least Climatologists, Sociologists and Economists.

That said, anybody can, as non-expert, mention some possibilities, though obviously not claiming any authoritativeness on the subject. (That's what I tried to do, hence why I began by saying it was just my "hazarding").

Psychological Trauma does not transmit through Race.

People can intellectually UNDERSTAND it, and then apply their own morals and principles to make judgements on such events - which is what you describe doing yourself - which is not at all the same thing as FEELING the pain that a victim feels and actually changing as person because of it.

What seems to have happenned with the history of the Holocaust in Israel was that the intellectual understanding of it was guided to interact with a totally different part of the human psychie of Israelis - their Tribalism, rather than their Empathy - so they feel that they're doing the morally right things whilst de facto doing monstrous things, because they've been convinced such things are required to "save the Jewish People from destruction", something they're constantly reminded was attempted before.

It's way harder for outsiders to shape the profound changes to a person as result of being victimized (it literally takes years of Psycho-Therapy to even just abate the trauma) than it is to shape people's intelectual judgment on stories about things done to those they identity with, and supremacists (such as Nazis and Zionists) invariably use stories of past victimization of those of the etnicity they claim to represent to both strengthen people's feelings of their Race as the most important group they belong to (i.e. of their Race as their tribe) and to spin a fable of how the Race is under attack and anything at all they do against the "enemies of the Race" (with supremacists deciding who those "enemies" are) is something they must do to "protect the Race".

It's not by chance that some much of what Zionists say and you hear from Israelis is pretty much what Nazis said and you heard from Germans in Nazi Germany but with different races as the superior race (which the former call "God's chosen people" and the latter "ubermenschen") and for those they claim are their inferior racial enemies (both calling them "vermin") - the exact same process is being used to shape people into violent ultra-racists who will do anything no matter how monstrous to "protect the race" and will even feel good and righteous about it afterwards to the point of shouting out to the World that they did it (which these two to did by taking this picture and posting in on social media) - these people are genuinelly proud of what they see as their righteous fight to protect their race.

I would say the Holocaust actually made it MORE LIKELY that a Jewish Supremacist nation would arise and that they would do their own Holocaust, because the stories of the Race being attacked used by the Nazis had to be heavilly spinned, whilst the Holocaust is barelly spinned (the only spin is to make it sound as the Jews were uniquelly targetted for extermination. not mentioning any of the other groups targetted in it, such as the Romani, 1/4 of a million of whom were murderer) and is genuine proof that somebody really tried to exterminate their ethnicity, hence it's far more believable (because it's the unbelished truth) than the stories the Nazis used about how their race was being victimized. Of course, the fable that the Jewish People RIGHT NOW are still being targetted as a Race for destruction is bullshit, but it did happen in the past, unlike with the stories the Nazis used about the "victimization" of the Arian People which were total bullshit.

They grew up in a nation which per its own constitutions is unabashedly supremacist and been indoctrinated their whole lives into thinking they "need to protect their Race" and that Palestinians (and Arabs in general) are "violent" and even "vermin" whilst they themselves are superior and have "Western Values" (which they don't, unless we're talking about 19th centure white colonialist "values").

They're like Germans in the late 1920s, only unlike them, these people have been fed stories about the need to "defend our race" and their own superiority and the inferiority of those who are not of their race for DECADES, which for these two zio-SS means their whole lives.

Israelis are the XXI century NAZIs, only more so because they've been fed far longer by the Zionists the same style of supremacist pap as the NAZIs fed the Germans.

They're not the same people!

Only about 10% of the population of Israel are Holocaust survivors or descendants of Holocaust survivors, as most Jewish immigrants to Israel by far came from Russia and the Middle East, not Western Europe.

There is no such thing as a racial transmission path for the trauma of victimization (i.e. there is no "Jewish Hive Mind"). I'm sorry but the very notion of there being a Race-wide psychological impact were people far from and uninvolved in a tragic event are changed by it in the same way as the actual victims is RACIST AS FUCK.

(Yeah, the "they're all victims" bulshit was probably sold to you your whole life, especially if you're an American, but it doesn't take that much logical analysis to follow that specific idea down to its foundations and discover it is entirey supported by the assumption that trauma spreads via Race, which is a spectacularly Racist take on the nature of humans and just a variation of "they're all the same")

The only psychological bond these people have to the Holocaust is having grown up in an environment were a supremacist political movement - Zionism - used stories about it to convince them that their race was under attack and that anything at all they did to "protect" the race was totally acceptable and justified - in other words, the memory of that tragedy were entirelly different people suffered, was twisted and weaponized to indoctrinated these, totally different individuals, to become rabidly racist violent supremacists.

The Holocaust was used by Zionists to make NAZIs out of Israelis and it was done by using it as material to spin the very same style of "our race is under attack" shit as the NAZIs did to brainwash Germanic people.

So it's not at all paradoxical that these people are doing their very own Holocausting: thanks to the Zionists and the way Israel was structured in its very Constitution as a supremacist nation, it's actually logical that there having been an Holocaust were members of their ethnicity were targetted, they would be doing something like that to others and doing it thinking they're "defending themselves" and that doing NAZI shit like targetting children because they belong to an ethnicity the Israelis are taught are "vermin", is actually the morally correct thing to do.

They're an entertainment technology, not a revolutionary business technology as they claim, so their maximum value is constrained by the boundaries of the entertainment market rather than being a significant fraction of the World's Economy: basically they'll at best have a Social Media Tech-sized Economic footprint, not an Industrial Revolution one.

However, that shit was sold to investors as an Economic Revolution and the investment footprint is proportional to that prospect and thus way bigger than it would be for "this will be as big as Social Media", and by now all that's left to try and keep that massive block of investment from crushing the far too narrow columnn or returns, is ever more desperate spinning of hopes and dreams fables.

I would hazard that the the extintion of Mankind really depends on the innevitable water and food wars escalating out of control in the nuclear era or not.

A lot of this shit (you also see it in Economics, as Inequality explodes and Social Mobility grinds to a halt) can escalate out of control via the reactions of Human Societies to it (just look at the rise of the Far Right in response to the above mentioned trends in Inequality and Social Mobility).

As I see it, people's and countries' reaction to the problems caused by Climate Change are were the nastiest of nasty shit can come out from.

The current Economic structure is designed so that the thing that makes the most Money is having Money and tilted so that the more the Money the bigger the effect.

This is why, for example, many if not most countries have higher taxes on income from work than on income from dividends.

It's not by chance that Social Mobility has collapsed to pretty much non-existence in most of the World, especially the US (were the saying "You can be anything" actually used to be true, but not anymore, not even close) - the Economy is so extremelly rigged for Money to make Money that the dumbest, laziest, most inept rich kid will keep on getting richer their whole lives no matter how much they fuck up.

Possibly even compounding, considering that there are more than just a Tech Stocks bubble and Realestate bubble at the moment (though those 2 are the largest) and any one blowing will probably cause the rest to blow.

On the "upside", the Tech Stocks bubble is mainly in the US and countries with semiconductors as a large fraction of their Economy, such as South Korea.