National Guard may run out of money because of Trump’s repeated deployments

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/national-guard-cost-donald-trump-deployments-b2812780.html

The National Guard is preparing for its fall training programs, but Donald Trump’s deployments are eating into its operational budget

The National Guard is feeling the cost of Donald Trump’s insistence on using National Guard troops to carry out his expansive immigration roundups and policing actions in Washington, D.C.

National Guard Major General Greg Porter, based in Wyoming, told the state's lawmakers during a meeting of the Joint Transportation Highways & Military Affairs Committee that the costs of Trump's National Guard deployments are still unknown, but they're no doubt eating into the branch's funds, according to WyoFile.

Porter said that the costs of prolonged deployments will eat into funding intended for things like training and operations.

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Zerlyna@lemmy.world · 111 pts · 362d (13 replies)

Oh no! Sounds like a good year for Maralago to get hit with a hurricane.

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 362d (9 replies)

Blue states need to just form their own coalition for natural disaster responses.

It makes zero sense to constantly bail out red states when the fed won't help blue states.

hddsx@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 362d (3 replies)

What do you mean? The president is sending the military to help out DC. It might not be the help needed, or the help wanted. But it’s help!

danc4498@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 362d (2 replies)

Or the help that is useful

Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 361d (1 reply)

or even help at all

turtlesareneat@discuss.online · 9 pts · 361d

OK over this way, sir, you are being detained

foggy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 361d

Great idea, truly.

New England, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, and Virginia all form an emergency response fund to only help one another. We all still get FEMA but we also have additional funds available.

Hire all the disenfranchised weathermen or something idk.

chocrates@piefed.world · 2 pts · 361d (1 reply)

Typically fema helps regardless. I don't think that has changed so far this year.

crusa187@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 361d

They try, but many conservative rubes have been conned into thinking fema is there to repossess their house or something. They actively avoid/threaten fema workers, whilst placing themselves and others in danger attempting to do fema’s job. Our propaganda is such poison in the US.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 362d (1 reply)

Blue states need to just form their own coalition for natural disaster responses.

That would require raising taxes and hiring more public staff, which neoliberal mayors and governors have been absolutely allergic to since Clinton.

California's status as World's Seventh Largest Economy matters less when they've the population of Canada but with 30% less state income. That, plus these states don't control their own currency. It would be a dozen liberal Argentinas in practice.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 362d

California’s status as World’s Seventh Largest Economy

Well, now it is the fourth largest, but point taken.

errer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 361d (1 reply)

Knowing the fucked up universe we live in, we’ll have a good 4 year stretch of no major disasters while Trump is President. God loves a good joke.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 360d

Worked out for him last time with the pandemic.

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 361d

Maybe the Dems will fire up the ole weather machine /s

ramble81@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 361d (6 replies)

I thought one of the first rules about being an evil dictator is to make sure to pay your troops decently so they don’t turn on you.

He’s gonna find out pretty quick that loyalty goes out the window when they’re not getting paid.

morphballganon@mtgzone.com · 27 pts · 361d

They'll keep getting paid. And this admin will keep stealing money to do it.

Azal@pawb.social · 21 pts · 361d (2 replies)

It's Trump, the guy who bankrupted a casino and regularly doesn't pay people he contracts.

If he started paying people and keeping anything without going to insolvency I'd think he'd been killed and a lizard was wearing his skin suit.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 360d

I hear reports they're having to cake makeup on his hands to prevent what's underneath from showing through

SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 361d

We need more lizards.

piecat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 361d

Shhhhhh that's for the educated to know and him to fibd out.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 361d
WatDabney@sopuli.xyz · 53 pts · 362d

Sure a good thing that the responsible and conscientious conservatives elected a right-thinking president who's going to cut wasteful spending and balance the budget, hmm?

Imagine what it would be like if instead a rabble of petulant, frightened assholes elected a deranged overgrown toddler who pissed away billions on whatever idiocy happened to trigger his stunted emotions on any given day.

Corelli_III@midwest.social · 37 pts · 361d

pretending USD is going to have value as the empire is attacking itself while charging itself bills for it

"oh its costing a millions yankee doodleys every day to hit ourselves, this is real and money has value, your student loans are definitely real, oh no now he's in chicago spending a zillion doodleys everyone"

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 361d (2 replies)

POV: When you built too many units in your Civ game and your gold and happiness goes to negative and rebel units start spawning. (Except it's in IRL with real human suffering)

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 361d (1 reply)

That's the best time to invade your neighbors. Unfortunately.

PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 360d

Enjoy your horrible death during the Canadian War. We're gonna make Vietnam look like a spa day.

Zier@fedia.io · 28 pts · 362d (7 replies)

There was a report that D.C. is costing $1 million a day. If he does 19 more cities, it's $20M a day. I guess those DOGE cuts are gone.

ZephyrXero@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 362d (3 replies)

Those cuts were never about the money. They'll just print more

Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 361d (1 reply)

IMO Doge activities were a smoke screen for a massive data grab

thedruid@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d

I'd bet money you ain't voicing an opinion. It's a fact

frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 360d

Long term prediction:

Trump will be gone within a decade one way or another. He will have done incalculable damage to the US economy. We'll be in "try anything" mode, and this is where MMT will have its first large scale test.

HubertManne@piefed.social · 12 pts · 361d (1 reply)

im still 100% that doge actions raised costs and did not save squat.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 361d

The numbers agreed with you -- severance ate a lot of the proposed savings, and the wrongful termination or constructive dismissal lawsuits haven't even ramped up.

Add this in and The US will be sorely equipped to fend off the next coup.

#insert <suddenClarityClarence.jpg>

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 361d

The doge cuts actually cost us money. And that's not counting all the damage the lack of services will cause the economy by no longer existing

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 361d

So what I'm hearing is, "ICE needs more funding?"

- Trump

ansiz@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 361d (3 replies)

I thought the idea was that Trump wasn't paying them? As in that's the point, the Federal government is forcing the states to foot the bill as a sign of fealty.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 361d (2 replies)

Even if that's the case, these are largely states that are in the red financially. They may be fine throwing national guard money at DC, LA, and their blue cities, but wait till it hits them in the basic functions.

Military deployment is expensive, and state budgets weren't written with the idea that the national guard was going to spend the bulk of the current administration deployed

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 361d (1 reply)

Exactly. It’s easy to say “make the states pay for it” until the states start pulling from their primary services to fund it.

Oh, you need to renew your car registration? Too bad, because the DMV is only open one day a week now, and they’re by appointment only. The earliest appointment you can get is six months from now. But at least we have boots on the ground, right?

ansiz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 361d

I agree, but that really is the point. Strain government services so they are shit, then use that as an excuse to privatize it as much as possible and funnel the funding to the oligarchs.

Deflated0ne@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 362d

Good. Hope it impacts readiness across the board.

DrSleepless@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 361d

DOGE, what a joke!

idntknow@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 362d

I cannot describe how much I hate this cheeto looking dipshit.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 361d (1 reply)

They’ve got money to throw at ICE and build their alligator Auschwitz, they’ll just print more money to throw at the Guard. Republicans love blowing budgets on punishments.

potato_wallrus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 361d

MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 361d
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Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 361d

Nice

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 361d

Dont worry they can just print more /s

Master167@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d (1 reply)

If only the US Federal departments were set up to stop operations when budgets run out. But alas, the US government loves debt.

frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 360d

They are. It's why everything in the federal government shuts down when the debt ceiling is hit.

There are exceptions made for critical functions, such as emergency management and the military and such. However, IIRC they don't get paid until Congress approves more funding; they still have to show up. National Guard troops sent out to deal with the toddler-in-chief's latest tantrum aren't going to be any happier if they don't get paid.

This is useful to know. ICE is getting paid and are very willing participants. The National Guard isn't so willing and may not be getting paid, but they will defend themselves and follow specific orders. Any civil action should take this into account.

beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 361d

Just tax us more and set up a parade for the kid's bday.

frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 361d (1 reply)

Why are they paying for it themselves when operating under federal orders?

HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 361d

yeah I don't get this. one reason govenors request federalization during emergencies is because when under fed control they use fed funds.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 362d (1 reply)

Sounds like some people about to get fired.

imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 361d

If anyone, it'll be this guy Gen Porter reporting the bad news