In German, "evangelisch" and "evangelikal" are two distinct things. The first one is used for local denominations like lutheranism that tend to be chill, while the second is reserved for the US-brand skullduggery. Does Finnish do something similar, or are the two really conflated?
It's sort of the same in the USA, in that evangelical is a broadly used term in the Christian community. For instance, there's a massive association of churches call the Evangelical Lutheran Churches in America (ELCA). Among other things, they consider themselves 'reconciling' churches whose duty it is to right the intolerance towards LGBTQ that has plagued religion through the years. They're not perfect and can have their own issues with prejudice and coercion, but they are massively better than the Evangelicals the USA and MAGA is famous for.
Yeah, i remember i've read that. Not ideal, but it's good they allow individual priests to make such decisions. I'm not a member though, and not very religious now, although been raised in much conservative religious tradition in Russia. And now seeing that church might be different, ethical and caring about minorities feels like a fresh air
In their world, a foreigner or needy person is someone who looks like someone they know and love, or has direct familial ties. They keep a tight group, and if you aren't fighting their "war on evil", you are the evil.
That's the rub. Christian teachings are pretty damn good. Organized Christianity is manipulative hate nonsense, at least among many large US denominations.
One big difference is that they wouldn't advertise their religion to you for no reason. So unless you ask everyone you meet about their religion, it's possible you actually did meet at least one and didn't know.
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1rre@discuss.tchncs.de · 60 pts · 364d
The bible also says you should be put to death if you work on a Sunday, so checkmate anyone who doesn't have a mon-fri office job
Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 363d
Change it to "anyone who makes you work on a Sunday" and I'll support that message.
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 363d
It's both the person who works on a Sunday and the person who makes them work on a Sunday.
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 52 pts · 364d
Religious folk:
protist@mander.xyz · 44 pts · 364d
"The Evangelical Church" isn't some single entity that can be held accountable, that's a big part of the problem.
froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 363d
in Finland, Evangelical Church is quite progressive, supports trans people and migrants and regularly participates in Pride
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 363d
In German, "evangelisch" and "evangelikal" are two distinct things. The first one is used for local denominations like lutheranism that tend to be chill, while the second is reserved for the US-brand skullduggery. Does Finnish do something similar, or are the two really conflated?
makyo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 363d
It's sort of the same in the USA, in that evangelical is a broadly used term in the Christian community. For instance, there's a massive association of churches call the Evangelical Lutheran Churches in America (ELCA). Among other things, they consider themselves 'reconciling' churches whose duty it is to right the intolerance towards LGBTQ that has plagued religion through the years. They're not perfect and can have their own issues with prejudice and coercion, but they are massively better than the Evangelicals the USA and MAGA is famous for.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 363d
Using the same word for two concepts is quite different from using two very similar words.
TaTTe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 363d
They still don't want to allow same-sex marriages though, although individual priests are allowed to go against the guidelines.
https://yle.fi/a/74-20160784
froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 362d
Yeah, i remember i've read that. Not ideal, but it's good they allow individual priests to make such decisions. I'm not a member though, and not very religious now, although been raised in much conservative religious tradition in Russia. And now seeing that church might be different, ethical and caring about minorities feels like a fresh air
MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 363d
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 363d
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 363d
Nah state run churches just scream to the heavens the ability to exploit the people even harder.
"God demands that those people be punished. Go forth and enact His will!" crusades with state protection
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 364d
Christofascists gonna Christofassh.
In their world, a foreigner or needy person is someone who looks like someone they know and love, or has direct familial ties. They keep a tight group, and if you aren't fighting their "war on evil", you are the evil.
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 364d
Those are just meant figuratively!
jared@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 364d
I've never met a real "christian"
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 364d
I have, and none of them followed a church.
TheBeege@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 363d
That's the rub. Christian teachings are pretty damn good. Organized Christianity is manipulative hate nonsense, at least among many large US denominations.
lunarul@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 363d
One big difference is that they wouldn't advertise their religion to you for no reason. So unless you ask everyone you meet about their religion, it's possible you actually did meet at least one and didn't know.
khaleer@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 363d
Lmao people who try to justify bullshit that's in bible.