Lotsa libs around here need this form, they won't sign it, but they should

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Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 363d (9 replies)

The gulag didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not his fault.
And if it was, he didn't mean it.
And if he did, the victims deserved it.

davel@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 363d (4 replies)

It obviously did happen. Most of the prisoners were common criminals, while 1/4–1/3 were political prisoners, like those who sided with and/or fought for Tsar Nicholas II.

What didn’t happen was The Gulag Archipelago, a work of fiction by an anti-communist & anti-Semite[1][2].

During the WWII Nazi invasion, the fatality rate was high, but still lower than in Tsarist Russia. And it wasn’t a life sentence for most. Most people served their term and were released, like almost any other prison system.

The system ended in 1960, while forced prison labor is still enshrined in the US constitution and still happening today.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 363d (3 replies)

Uh huh. So we're at the "it wasn't that bad" stage.

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 363d

Do you dispute the data?

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 363d

The verifiably correct one, yeah, fucking duh

davel@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 362d

Yeah, because it in fact wasn’t as bad as the Nazi war propaganda and the western Cold War propaganda made it out to be.

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 363d

Better than the current US prison system by a wide margin

bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 363d (2 replies)

Yet another wonderful .world lib response!

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 363d (1 reply)

Simping for mass murderers is so progressive!

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 363d

The state department thanks you for your service patriot

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 363d

::: spoiler Demystifying Stalin

I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy.

  • J. V. Stalin
  1. Nia Frome's "Tankies"

[8 min]

  1. W. E. B Dubois' On Stalin

[6 min]

  1. Domenico Losurdo's Primitive Thinking and Stalin as Scapegoat

[30 min]

  1. Domenico Losurdo's Stalin and Stalinism in History

[16 min]

  1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by H. G. Wells

[42 min]

  1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Emil Ludwig

[38 min]

  1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Roy Howard

[9 min]

  1. Domenico Losurdo's Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend

[5 hr 51 min]

  1. Ludo Martens' Another View of Stalin

[5 hr 25 min]

  1. Anna Louise Strong's This Soviet World :::

::: spoiler Stalin's Major Theoretical Contributions to Marxism

I have come to communism because of daddy Stalin and nobody must come and tell me that I mustn’t read Stalin. I read him when it was very bad to read him. That was another time. And because I’m not very bright, and a hard-headed person, I keep on reading him. Especially in this new period, now that it is worse to read him. Then, as well as now, I still find a Seri of things that are very good.

  • Che Guevara
  1. Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR

  2. Dialectical and Historical Materialism

  3. History of the CPSU (B)

  4. The Foundations of Leninism

  5. Marxism and the National Question :::

TheFriendlyDickhead@feddit.org · 3 pts · 363d

Based

Mbourgon@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 362d (1 reply)
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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 362d

So what you're saying is, large parts of your family were nazis. Got it!

plandeka@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 363d (10 replies)

I encourage you to go to Russia and check yourself, maybe ask a few Russians. Hopefully you end up on the frontline pretty fast and stop posting shit like this.

Or at least maybe go to some post-soviet country and ask the elderly how great it was under the communism. Those who survived it of course.

tyra@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 363d

You mean the elders that to a huge portion miss the USSR, because they found out that the West fucked them over with their propaganda and now they have no healthcare or housing? Sure.

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 363d (2 replies)

I encourage you to take your own advice and find out how completely wrong you are

plandeka@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 361d (1 reply)

thankfully I do not have cause I actually am an eastern european.

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 361d

Try talking to anyone who was actually alive to remember the soviet union

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 363d (4 replies)

The majority of those who lived in the USSR want it back, especially Russians. Further, 63,000 new KPRF members over the last 4 years, a huge wave of soviet pride with over 1 million celebrating the Immortal Regiment, and more.

The Russian people long for the return of socialism. This number is higher among the elderly. Please stop inventing fantasy to match your narrative, it's deeply unserious behavior.

Mbourgon@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 362d (1 reply)
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Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 362d

The Russians joining the KPRF are not the ones 90+ and older that remember Stalin, but the 20-50 range, many of which remember the USSR, but also many of which have grown up in the misery of capitalism.

Side-note, are you suggesting I get paid to be a communist? I certainly wouldn't mind, if you can find a benevolent sponsor for my posting online that would be much appreciated!

plandeka@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 361d (1 reply)

Unserious are your source choices my man, everyone can invent their own truth. Not much more to say tbh.

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 361d

What on Earth are you talking about? This is publicly available knowledge from numerous sources.

bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 363d

ha ha classic .world lib thought-terminating cliche response, JuSt gO ThERe

floopus@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 363d

lib is when anti genocidal dictator?