You can download docs once and refer to them pretty much. You can also download dependencies once and read their source code to figure out questions you may have.
Like, sure, I need the internet to download new packages and tools and their documentation and stuff. I will concede this. But after that, I can live off the land.
Sure you can and we all had to live without nice things at a certain time, I had the Nintendo DS & Wii doc in physical text form (because NDA and so I guess), with only a handful of helpful people on the Nintendo forum. But that was invaluable, still remember that guy from Team17 helping me out because the audio was bugged in the console.
I mean we can all motor through it and spend lots of time figuring it out, I actually like that 😁, but having access to the whole worlds shared knowledge is kind of nice too.
Not really. If the internet goes out in our office 100% of our programmers are going home. Doesnt make them bad, the internet is to useful to work without.
the documentation is literally on Internet. Python standard library, MSDN, posgresql, odbc drivers. Everything is online. are you suggesting you memorised your whole stack, and did you printed out ? Granted * some * of it can be downloaded
I remember when ‚man 3 printf‘ and such was a thing. Good times, those. Then there’s ‚go doc encoding/json‘ as well. I’m sure other languages have some offline docs
38 Comments
crozilla@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 348d
Forgot “Microsoft Word”
Z3k3@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 348d
Forgot “Microsoft
Wordoffice”jeeva@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 348d
I'm sorry, do you mean Microsoft Copilot 365?
gags
omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 348d
Microsoft Office Suite, it sounds classier
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 16 pts · 348d
Spreadsheet Architect, Powerpoint Guru, Wordsmith
Kache@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 348d
Classier than listing every program individually?
LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 348d
Eliminating orphans is an essential skill in IT.
Gyroplast@pawb.social · 16 pts · 348d
More essential IT skills to add to your resume:
marcos@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 348d
Seriously, pipes should default to unbuffered...
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 348d
You mean Copilot. No one uses word manually anymore.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 347d
Copilot? Write me a terse reply to the highlighted comment.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 348d
This is actually scary. They cant do anything without an internet connection.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 347d
To be fair, programming without internet is just (very) unproductive.
sepi@piefed.social · 6 pts · 347d
For you
sleen@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 347d
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
Tell me you're not a programmer without telling me you're not a programmer.
sepi@piefed.social · 10 pts · 347d
I got almost 3 decades of writing software for money. I don't need stack chatgpt overflow. I know some standard libraries by heart.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 347d
Guess you just "know" all the new stuff coming out?
I programmed for a living before stack overflow, and it was just less effective.
sepi@piefed.social · 3 pts · 347d
You can download docs once and refer to them pretty much. You can also download dependencies once and read their source code to figure out questions you may have.
Like, sure, I need the internet to download new packages and tools and their documentation and stuff. I will concede this. But after that, I can live off the land.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
Sure you can and we all had to live without nice things at a certain time, I had the Nintendo DS & Wii doc in physical text form (because NDA and so I guess), with only a handful of helpful people on the Nintendo forum. But that was invaluable, still remember that guy from Team17 helping me out because the audio was bugged in the console.
I mean we can all motor through it and spend lots of time figuring it out, I actually like that 😁, but having access to the whole worlds shared knowledge is kind of nice too.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 348d
I have a mild existential crisis every time the Internet goes down. I have no idea what's wrong, and I cant use the Internet to find out what's wrong.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 348d
You should work to become sufficient offline. I have my whole life because I know how fragile it is.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 11 pts · 347d
Not really. If the internet goes out in our office 100% of our programmers are going home. Doesnt make them bad, the internet is to useful to work without.
sleen@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 347d
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 346d
Yeah I'm kinda helpless if I can't get maven packages or check packages against the CVE database.
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@programming.dev · 11 pts · 348d
the documentation is literally on Internet. Python standard library, MSDN, posgresql, odbc drivers. Everything is online. are you suggesting you memorised your whole stack, and did you printed out ? Granted * some * of it can be downloaded
urandom@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 347d
I remember when ‚man 3 printf‘ and such was a thing. Good times, those. Then there’s ‚go doc encoding/json‘ as well. I’m sure other languages have some offline docs
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 348d
So you know how to fix all the security holes the AI left in your codebase, right? Right?
QuestionMark@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 348d
No worries, GPT says my* code is flawless.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 348d
Did someone crop off DevOps?
QuestionMark@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 348d
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 348d
Generative AI AND chatGPT. Impressive.
But I know how to code, program, AND write software.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 348d
But don’t have a development podcast?
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 348d
Damn, you're right! I need to let people know that in addition to my other skills, I can also develop applications.
Chatgpt how do I pod my cast
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 347d
So this whole list is actually
ChatGPT
How to ask ChatGPT how to:
Coding
Computer Science ....
handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 348d
He forgot to list his Minecraft server
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 347d
Hey, maintaining that server is a 24/7 job after the last update. There are dozens of people depending on me.
hark@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 347d
Generative AI degenerating skills.
int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 348d
wait, just ChatGPT? not llama, gemma, or even gemini or copilot?
paulbg@programming.dev · 5 pts · 348d
majoring in chatgpt💀