LibreWolf doesn't help me with websites that refuse to work properly on Firefox's engine. I mentioned in the article that Firefox is already my daily web browser, but I've been looking for a good backup Chromium browser for that and other reasons.
Some say brave, but all that crypto crap and a few scandals has me saying no.
Vivaldi, which started by the original Opera Deva after the browser was bought by a Chinese corp is pretty OK. Lots of the google stuff removed. Very customizable. Still works with ublock.
Other than that, on android there's chromite - no google blobs. Chromium on Linux - but it still has the google blobs.
Not a great example, but the ERP I use for work doesn't support Firefox and has some minor issues due to how Firefox handles frames differently from chromium based browsers.
If you use a browser back, the site goes all the way back to the home page instead of the previous menu you were using, because they put a whole extra layer over the entire site to handle navigation.
I haven't noticed a website outright blocking Firefox in a while, in part because Firefox devs are staying on top of it with overriding a lot of site blocks. The issue I run into the most is reduced video quality in Google Meet in Firefox, so I switch to Safari or Chromium when I need to do calls there.
It’s very actively maintained. It’s just a hardened version of Firefox, you can get similar results using a privacy-focused user.js profile with Firefox. What’s nice about is is that once Firefox introduces a new update with more breaches of privacy, they adjust the settings on their side, so it’s just more convenient. And you can configure some things via the GUI instead of some JavaScript files
Edge is malware. Even if you use their settings to make it not broadcast everything you do to MS servers and block Copilot, etc., there's nothing stopping it from deciding tomorrow to just randomly change those settings back without permission or notification, as Windows often does.
Oh and in order to edit the group policies the author mentions, you need to be using it in Windows, which is a whole other problem.
Does 11 evwn come with the GPE standard, or do you need a "pro" or "enterprise" level key, like you did for Windows 10? Because that would be another issue if you can't even access the GPE on a standard free version of Win11.
Edge Linux was weirdly performant when I tested it.
Not only did it benchmark better than plain Chromium (or Bromite or Thorium back then), but it seemed to behave better with Wayland. It was, indeed, be best Chromium Linux browser.
Chromium builds don't have built-in automatic updates, and they're missing DRM and some other proprietary components that are important. I've seen some community-maintained builds with varying update methods, but they don't seem as well-supported as relying on Google/Microsoft/Vivaldi/whatever.
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yoshisaur@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 333d
Seems like a lot of work when you can just use librewolf
corbin@infosec.pub · 19 pts · 333d
LibreWolf doesn't help me with websites that refuse to work properly on Firefox's engine. I mentioned in the article that Firefox is already my daily web browser, but I've been looking for a good backup Chromium browser for that and other reasons.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 332d
Some say brave, but all that crypto crap and a few scandals has me saying no.
Vivaldi, which started by the original Opera Deva after the browser was bought by a Chinese corp is pretty OK. Lots of the google stuff removed. Very customizable. Still works with ublock.
Other than that, on android there's chromite - no google blobs. Chromium on Linux - but it still has the google blobs.
corbin@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 332d
Yes, I suggested Vivaldi in the article.
dabster291@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 326d
There's Ungoogled Chromium if you're interested.
jimmy90@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 332d
brave is still the best in terms of compatibility, features and efficiency which is why popular linux distros Nobara and Zorin use it as the default
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 332d
Do you have a list of broken web sites? I have never seen any proof so far.
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 332d
Not a great example, but the ERP I use for work doesn't support Firefox and has some minor issues due to how Firefox handles frames differently from chromium based browsers.
If you use a browser back, the site goes all the way back to the home page instead of the previous menu you were using, because they put a whole extra layer over the entire site to handle navigation.
corbin@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 330d
I haven't noticed a website outright blocking Firefox in a while, in part because Firefox devs are staying on top of it with overriding a lot of site blocks. The issue I run into the most is reduced video quality in Google Meet in Firefox, so I switch to Safari or Chromium when I need to do calls there.
kayohtie@pawb.social · 3 pts · 333d
How does that compare to WaterFox or similar? I'm guessing it's not running a dated framework like PaleMoon?
dude@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 333d
It’s very actively maintained. It’s just a hardened version of Firefox, you can get similar results using a privacy-focused user.js profile with Firefox. What’s nice about is is that once Firefox introduces a new update with more breaches of privacy, they adjust the settings on their side, so it’s just more convenient. And you can configure some things via the GUI instead of some JavaScript files
Ulrich@feddit.org · 27 pts · 332d
Edge is malware. Even if you use their settings to make it not broadcast everything you do to MS servers and block Copilot, etc., there's nothing stopping it from deciding tomorrow to just randomly change those settings back without permission or notification, as Windows often does.
Oh and in order to edit the group policies the author mentions, you need to be using it in Windows, which is a whole other problem.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 332d
Does 11 evwn come with the GPE standard, or do you need a "pro" or "enterprise" level key, like you did for Windows 10? Because that would be another issue if you can't even access the GPE on a standard free version of Win11.
elvith@feddit.org · 4 pts · 332d
GPE is only Pro and higher. No luck on home.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 332d
Me too, I just downloaded Firefox.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 332d
Firefox isn't chromium
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 325d
Yes you are correct, what's your point?
kaitco@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 333d
Isn’t the Chromium project still open source? I guess forking things and building from there doesn’t happen anymore?
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 332d
Edge Linux was weirdly performant when I tested it.
Not only did it benchmark better than plain Chromium (or Bromite or Thorium back then), but it seemed to behave better with Wayland. It was, indeed, be best Chromium Linux browser.
Shrug.
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 332d
What other chromium browsers have you tried on Linux?
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
I mean:
Chromium, binary release
Chromium, CachyOS AVX2 build
Thorium
Cromite
moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 332d
Why not just use Chromium?
dude@lemmings.world · 9 pts · 332d
Why not just use Ungoogled Chromium?
corbin@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 332d
Chromium builds don't have built-in automatic updates, and they're missing DRM and some other proprietary components that are important. I've seen some community-maintained builds with varying update methods, but they don't seem as well-supported as relying on Google/Microsoft/Vivaldi/whatever.
moobythegoldensock@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 332d
Sure, but it’s not hard to install widevine in Chromium and it’ll be auto updated through whatever package manager you use to install it.
infjarchninja@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 332d
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 332d
ngl that looks pretty good. Does it support vertical tabs?
aviationeast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
Or you know, use a privacy aware browser on Linux.
corbin@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 332d
I used desktop Linux as my daily driver for years, I am aware it exists.