Back in the day I was in the IRC book piracy scene. "Ebooks" weren't out yet. So someone would scan a book page by page. Then they would hand it off for editing basically. First revision was the straight OCR (Optical Character Reader), then usually someone would do a pass through to take out any weird characters and what not. That second revision would then be handed off to someone like myself who would read the actual book and correct any typos the OCR created. I read books on a Palm Pilot.
Can't trace what's not there. Especially when dealing with joined pages. Some scanners somehow cut out entire sections from the middle of the page. I can go into a diatribe over skills that people in scanslation don't have anymore.
Maybe, but I've seen some nasty stuff. Like instead of cloning a background they just blur it. Or not matching the background bubble color when cleaning the original text. Or removing the mini kanji or outside the bubble, the side comments, flavor text etc., without translating them. There are even some that go out of their way to straight up sensor the manga. I've seen cleavage removed, clothes drawn on, and the most egregious one they just put a black box around a character.
Obscure titles may draw the attention of groups that will treat them right.
I remember that one page in Medaka Box with lots of very tiny writings in the background and being impressed that the scanlator bothered to translate those into English.
I'm looking forward to IRC v3. It will bring modern chat features like threads and emoji reactions, and it might be time for a resurgence in its popularity
Other than backwards compatibility with previous IRC clients, is there anything IRCv3 brings that something like Matrix doesn't do? Despite myself being a pretty prolific EFnet'er 15-20 years ago, most of the world has moved from IRC and I question the value of splitting resources across too many different efforts, when I think we'd be better off if everyone adopting a federated protocol like Matrix; which I believe covers pretty much all of the IRC use cases in addition to a number of others.
Matrix has a name for being a cumbersome protocol, which is partly true (try to join a room on a big server like matrix.org, but also kde.org and mozilla.org), but there are now lightweight servers such as Dendrite and Continuwuity.
Not sure if that project will go anywhere, it doesn’t seem like it from the GitHub. Though from the people I’ve talked to, they like IRC because it’s simple without things like reactions and etc.
Just one time I want someone to write a love letter to some old technology and for it to just be an actual love letter and just like some psycho who is literally in love with some protocol and they're like talking about how hot the protocol is and how they wish they could just fuck it. Is that too much to ask?
As with every episode I’ve seen so far, it’s a confusing avant-garde mess, but with cassette-cyberpunk aesthetics (the best kind of cyberpunk aesthetics) so I guess that’s okay.
But that episode in particular is weird people confessing psycho love for a protocol.
To be fair I’m less weirded out by falling for a concept and much more weirded out by the fact this protocol looks like and thinks she is an 11yo girl, and these adult creepy idiots are confessing their love to her. Seriously, what the fuck Japan?
I still run my own server. My friends and I hang out and play with chat bots and send memes and comics back and forth. It's a pretty chill place to hang out, and it's super easy to self-host.
IRC continues to demonstrate the superiority of protocols over platforms. Unfortunately, the modern internet is entirely dominated by centralized platforms and that doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.
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Lexam@lemmy.world · 103 pts · 340d
Back in the day I was in the IRC book piracy scene. "Ebooks" weren't out yet. So someone would scan a book page by page. Then they would hand it off for editing basically. First revision was the straight OCR (Optical Character Reader), then usually someone would do a pass through to take out any weird characters and what not. That second revision would then be handed off to someone like myself who would read the actual book and correct any typos the OCR created. I read books on a Palm Pilot.
einlander@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 340d
Reminds me of the scanslation scene. Was a cleaner/redrawer.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 340d
einlander@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 340d
Can't trace what's not there. Especially when dealing with joined pages. Some scanners somehow cut out entire sections from the middle of the page. I can go into a diatribe over skills that people in scanslation don't have anymore.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 339d
No shade intended! Just memeing with 90s memes!
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 2 pts · 339d
I read some obscure manga titles and I'd say that the skills and care are still there.
einlander@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 339d
Maybe, but I've seen some nasty stuff. Like instead of cloning a background they just blur it. Or not matching the background bubble color when cleaning the original text. Or removing the mini kanji or outside the bubble, the side comments, flavor text etc., without translating them. There are even some that go out of their way to straight up sensor the manga. I've seen cleavage removed, clothes drawn on, and the most egregious one they just put a black box around a character.
Obscure titles may draw the attention of groups that will treat them right.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 339d
I remember that one page in Medaka Box with lots of very tiny writings in the background and being impressed that the scanlator bothered to translate those into English.
Stillwater@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 340d
Thank you for your service
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 339d
Palm pilot. You an OG. I miss my little palm.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 340d
I just heard someone on a podcast calling Palm Pilots shitty porto-e-readers the other day.
laranis@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 339d
Glorious.
Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 337d
I downloaded .txt books and read on my DS :D nostalgic but do not want to relive the experience
ZephyrXero@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 339d
I'm looking forward to IRC v3. It will bring modern chat features like threads and emoji reactions, and it might be time for a resurgence in its popularity
ggiesen@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 339d
Other than backwards compatibility with previous IRC clients, is there anything IRCv3 brings that something like Matrix doesn't do? Despite myself being a pretty prolific EFnet'er 15-20 years ago, most of the world has moved from IRC and I question the value of splitting resources across too many different efforts, when I think we'd be better off if everyone adopting a federated protocol like Matrix; which I believe covers pretty much all of the IRC use cases in addition to a number of others.
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 14 pts · 339d
Matrix has a name for being a cumbersome protocol, which is partly true (try to join a room on a big server like
matrix.org, but alsokde.organdmozilla.org), but there are now lightweight servers such as Dendrite and Continuwuity.ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 338d
I love the idea of Matrix but gah it’s so damn slow and moderation/permissions are a nightmare.
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 1 pts · 338d
The permission system is not more complicated than Discord's.
pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 339d
Whoa... I just found out about this
JunglisticFunkateer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 338d
Will it require a user to set up a bouncer for chat history etc, or will it work seamlessly?
ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 338d
Not sure if that project will go anywhere, it doesn’t seem like it from the GitHub. Though from the people I’ve talked to, they like IRC because it’s simple without things like reactions and etc.
MTK@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 339d
Just one time I want someone to write a love letter to some old technology and for it to just be an actual love letter and just like some psycho who is literally in love with some protocol and they're like talking about how hot the protocol is and how they wish they could just fuck it. Is that too much to ask?
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 339d
Serial Experiments Lain, layer:10 LOVE
As with every episode I’ve seen so far, it’s a confusing avant-garde mess, but with cassette-cyberpunk aesthetics (the best kind of cyberpunk aesthetics) so I guess that’s okay.
But that episode in particular is weird people confessing psycho love for a protocol.
To be fair I’m less weirded out by falling for a concept and much more weirded out by the fact this protocol looks like and thinks she is an 11yo girl, and these adult creepy idiots are confessing their love to her. Seriously, what the fuck Japan?
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 3 pts · 339d
It's also kind of an all-powerful god though.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 339d
My dearest Tokenring,
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 9 pts · 339d
be the change
piefood@feddit.online · 23 pts · 339d
I <3 IRC
I still run my own server. My friends and I hang out and play with chat bots and send memes and comics back and forth. It's a pretty chill place to hang out, and it's super easy to self-host.
Go take back the web that was taken from you.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 339d
Can I join?
piefood@feddit.online · 4 pts · 339d
Sorry no :(
It's an "IRL" friend only thing, and I don't want to associate this account with my real name (My IRC instance has my name tied to it)
But I'd be happy to help you get connected to one of the public servers if you need! :)
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 338d
Who's to say we can't be IRL friends
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 339d
IRC rules! I just made a new channel to discuss degoogling -- come by and say hi! https://web.libera.chat/##degoogle
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 340d
IRC is still awesome and I am have come back to it every time whatever new platform we try becomes shitty. I think I'll just stay put this time.
philosloppy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 339d
IRC continues to demonstrate the superiority of protocols over platforms. Unfortunately, the modern internet is entirely dominated by centralized platforms and that doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 340d
I still follow my early IRC friends on social media. It feels like most of them went on to be successful in the tech world. That wasn’t my path tho.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 338d
Shit provided me a social life in my teens. I still think of those guys sometimes.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 338d
I'm still using IRC but the population there was reduced significantly when discord got popular. it's unfortunate
glowie@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 340d
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 339d
Isn't this jack Dorsey's project?
glowie@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 338d
The bitchat part is, yup