I did not say it did, I said it made negative assumptions(they all think they are okay, they will never change) on all men. As if no man can ever see his own mistakes, as if no man can ever understand the issue and change. To call this post not negative towards men is disingenuous.
@LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone do you not consider the content of this post to be a direct violation of rule 3? See my other comments here to understand my view point better. But regardless doesn't this objectively count as hate filled talk about a group?
I agree, but to change that, to make this world more empathetic, we can't just say "well tribalism is real so I will judge you based on the tirbe I think you belong to" we have to both accept that tribalism is real and has a real affect (which in the context of this post can be seen in rape statistics, domestic abuse statistics, etc) and that each human is an individual that has nothing to do with any tribe or statistic until proven otherwise.
If you asked me "who is the more oppressive gender in our society?" I can easily answer "men" but if you ask me "between 1 man and 1 woman, who is more oppressive?" All I can say is "I don't know them"
There is a difference between believing "society teaches men X" or "society enables men to do Y" and believing "all men are X" or "all men do Y"
This isn't a "not all men" comment, this is a genuine discussion about how our victimhood causes us to go beyond justice and equality and into retaliatory attacks.
There is a big difference between a small comment like "all men suck" (which I still think is unhelpful and hurtful) and the deep and thought out belief that the OOP posted. To say "not all men" to the small comment is to miss the point and just be defensive, but the OOP is something else that deserves discussion, not to mention the fact that the title of this post is asking for opinions.
Just to add my pov for context:
I am AMAB but I am not a man, but society identifies me as one. I have been hurt bu people generalizing about non-cis, I have been hurt by peolle generalizing about non-straight, I have been hurt by people generalizing about women, and I have been hurt by people generalizing about men. The one that stands out the most for me is the men one, not because of any special attachment or because it is worse (it is obviously not), but because within the groups that are understanding and accepting of who I am (call it liberal, woke, progressive, idc) the generalization of men was always so casual and in the open. It reminded me of the other side, the people that I used to hate because they would openly joke about "the gays" and black people, and especially women. Everytime I heard a sexist remark I would cringe and wonder how they can be so casual about being so horribly disrespectful and aggressive towards literally half of the world? And now days I don't hang around these kinds of people, but I find myself in a very similar situation because it seems that here (while they are 10000% better) they feel comfortable to openly disrespect and be aggressive towards the other half of the world...
I will say, this is just a comment so there is a lot of nuance here, but while I draw similarities between both sides, I whole heartedly believe and feel that one side was actually horrible and the other is more of understandably flawed situation.
I think the issue with this opinion is the core assumption that all men necessarily have all encompassing views on all women. Once you don't evaluate people based on random groups they have no real choice in being a part of, you stop having ideas such as "women deserve X" or "Blacks deserve Y" or "All men are Z" or any other form of bigotry.
So as frustrating as the patriarchy is, and as much as it sucks that significant portions of our society is inherently sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and much more. We won't solve it by just being sexist the other way, nor will we teach the next generation to empathize with those who are different. We need to be honest with ourselves and ask "Am I judging people based on their actions, or based on immutable attributes?"
The tags society assign to you (be it gender, race, religion, etc) mean nothing about your value. Your actions and beliefs are the metrics that should be used to evaluate you as a person.
Add to that the fact that hiring and training a new employee usually costs between 5-10 times more than retaining an employee (from hire to fully trained)
The fact is that AI has reach a point of not being identifiable as AI, but that does not mean it is beyond criticism.
Art is inherently about meaning, intent, background, humanity. An amazing art piece is rarely amazing because it is the most skillfully crafted most beautiful piece that exists (though some are)
Look at almost all famous paintings, most of them are not all that impressive when compared to what other people can create, not that they are shitty, but rarely do they actually surpass all others with beauty or skill.
And the final point is that AI art is built on theft of human art, it is the abuse of the human artistic spirit for the purpose of capitalism.
Yeah but then one of them is "curry powder" and now you have twice as many ingredients!
"There is not a single men on earth that thinks he mistreats women"
"Every man dishes out exactly what he thinks women deserve"
The generalization here is that all men have an idea of what all women deserve, as if all men judge women based on their gender
I did not say it did, I said it made negative assumptions(they all think they are okay, they will never change) on all men. As if no man can ever see his own mistakes, as if no man can ever understand the issue and change. To call this post not negative towards men is disingenuous.
I did not say that it did, I said that it made generalizations about men
Copyparty is good for me, very basic but both highly customizable and quick to setup with sane defaults.
On android I use a DAVx⁵ mount
@LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone do you not consider the content of this post to be a direct violation of rule 3? See my other comments here to understand my view point better. But regardless doesn't this objectively count as hate filled talk about a group?
I agree, but to change that, to make this world more empathetic, we can't just say "well tribalism is real so I will judge you based on the tirbe I think you belong to" we have to both accept that tribalism is real and has a real affect (which in the context of this post can be seen in rape statistics, domestic abuse statistics, etc) and that each human is an individual that has nothing to do with any tribe or statistic until proven otherwise.
If you asked me "who is the more oppressive gender in our society?" I can easily answer "men" but if you ask me "between 1 man and 1 woman, who is more oppressive?" All I can say is "I don't know them"
There is a difference between believing "society teaches men X" or "society enables men to do Y" and believing "all men are X" or "all men do Y"
This isn't a "not all men" comment, this is a genuine discussion about how our victimhood causes us to go beyond justice and equality and into retaliatory attacks.
There is a big difference between a small comment like "all men suck" (which I still think is unhelpful and hurtful) and the deep and thought out belief that the OOP posted. To say "not all men" to the small comment is to miss the point and just be defensive, but the OOP is something else that deserves discussion, not to mention the fact that the title of this post is asking for opinions.
Just to add my pov for context:
I am AMAB but I am not a man, but society identifies me as one. I have been hurt bu people generalizing about non-cis, I have been hurt by peolle generalizing about non-straight, I have been hurt by people generalizing about women, and I have been hurt by people generalizing about men. The one that stands out the most for me is the men one, not because of any special attachment or because it is worse (it is obviously not), but because within the groups that are understanding and accepting of who I am (call it liberal, woke, progressive, idc) the generalization of men was always so casual and in the open. It reminded me of the other side, the people that I used to hate because they would openly joke about "the gays" and black people, and especially women. Everytime I heard a sexist remark I would cringe and wonder how they can be so casual about being so horribly disrespectful and aggressive towards literally half of the world? And now days I don't hang around these kinds of people, but I find myself in a very similar situation because it seems that here (while they are 10000% better) they feel comfortable to openly disrespect and be aggressive towards the other half of the world...
I will say, this is just a comment so there is a lot of nuance here, but while I draw similarities between both sides, I whole heartedly believe and feel that one side was actually horrible and the other is more of understandably flawed situation.
I think the issue with this opinion is the core assumption that all men necessarily have all encompassing views on all women. Once you don't evaluate people based on random groups they have no real choice in being a part of, you stop having ideas such as "women deserve X" or "Blacks deserve Y" or "All men are Z" or any other form of bigotry.
So as frustrating as the patriarchy is, and as much as it sucks that significant portions of our society is inherently sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and much more. We won't solve it by just being sexist the other way, nor will we teach the next generation to empathize with those who are different. We need to be honest with ourselves and ask "Am I judging people based on their actions, or based on immutable attributes?"
The tags society assign to you (be it gender, race, religion, etc) mean nothing about your value. Your actions and beliefs are the metrics that should be used to evaluate you as a person.
Well, we are on the internet and I don't want to hear your reasonable and nuanced arguments! /s
Yeah, sometimes things just go that way and we have to do our best to come back to it later.
Add to that the fact that hiring and training a new employee usually costs between 5-10 times more than retaining an employee (from hire to fully trained)
I should try telling that to the criminals, that way we won't need the police anymore 😌
Why bother with a VPN and not use tor? For any low volume usage it should be good
Disregulated coconut
You jusr need to commit harder. Roommate needs help? Tits out or wait for me to sew this shit
Grok was confused because he was supposed to be the unhinged one
These days you can even chat with it!
You compile your code and suddenly creepy music comes on. Your code runs perfectly.
The fact is that AI has reach a point of not being identifiable as AI, but that does not mean it is beyond criticism.
Art is inherently about meaning, intent, background, humanity. An amazing art piece is rarely amazing because it is the most skillfully crafted most beautiful piece that exists (though some are)
Look at almost all famous paintings, most of them are not all that impressive when compared to what other people can create, not that they are shitty, but rarely do they actually surpass all others with beauty or skill.
And the final point is that AI art is built on theft of human art, it is the abuse of the human artistic spirit for the purpose of capitalism.