For every person who likes small phones, there’s a thousand people who’d rather buy a 7" behemoth. I’ll be using my 13 mini for as many years as I can, but we’ve lost the battle :(
At least the Air is probably more comfortable to use than the others
The mini was quite a compromised phone. And I get it, they have to make it look good. They don’t want some thick ass small phone with an apple logo on the back. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I want.
Probably why it has a titanium frame even though aluminum would've been lighter. I guess if you really want to break it you can (as you can with any phone), but I doubt accidental bends will be an issue.
I'm interested. Thinness isn't as much of a draw as weight to me. I have a 16 Pro now and am kinda tired of how heavy it is. As long as the battery gets me through a 16 hour day that's all i need.
Also if I need extra battery life, they brought back the magsafe battery which i can keep in a backpack. Best of both worlds.
Samsung did it because it leaked Apple was always doing this.
It’s likely a test case for their upcoming foldable. If they make it this thin they can Cana decent idea of some of the failure modes of the foldable that they may not have predicted.
Leave it to Apple to put a small phone battery, to sell another battery for you to stick it outside the case, and kill the inside battery faster by using the most inefficient energy transfer technology. This must check all the money related boxes for their accountants. Bravo.
By the way, for everyone that says you're supposed to buy a case for it, well hear me out...
Being expected to buy a case in addition to the separate purchase of the phone, well that means the phone itself isn't even complete. And it was literally engineered that way, some extra parts and assembly expected on your part.
But if you do opt for a phone case, well that case also holds in heat and makes it get even hotter while charging or in use, which itself is also not good for the device.
A properly designed device shouldn't have a camera bump, but should rather have a flush uniform and sturdy enough screen and shell that you shouldn't particularly even need a separate phone case in the first place.
I searched way harder than I should've needed to find a case that had a flush camera cutout for my 15 pro. Like, fuck me for not wanting to let the camera lens touch the table when I put it down lol.
people who think owning apple is a status symbol. that's who.
and it's the majority of consumers. apple has a very high attachment rate/image for the US consumer. especially among the upper middle class where not having an apple product/iphone is considered a mark of poverty.
I just measured my iPhone 16 Pro’s thickness with a caliper, too lazy to read the actual specifications, got around 8-8.5mm. If we multiplied 5.6mm (iPhone 17 Air) by 4 that would be 22.4mm which is nearly 7/8” thick.
That would be an absolutely brick to lug around personally, I can barely fit my current phone with its otter box in my pocket as is and comfortably sit down.
so smaller battery (meaning you will need to replace it earlier, which is bad), larger screen than the base model while having a smaller capacity (making battery life even worse…) compromised cameras (no ultrawide and no telephoto, “optical quality” crop in does not count…), compromised speakers (only the amplified earpiece speaker?), possible durability issues (which may be partially remedied with a case, but that defeats the point of a thin phone…), worse thermals (esp. with the “Pro” chip, albeit one less GPU core, also will make battery life extra worse. iOS 26 is sure to make the thermals worse too…), and more expensive.
They are making stupid big phones to set themselves up for when they invent the folding screen models in 2026.
Folders are great, but others have been making them for years.
After seeing this model was getting the A19 Pro, I was half expecting the Pro to get the M5. Honestly, depending on thermals and size, that could work.
Ultrathinness in (TV|stationery monitor)s can understand , not so much for stuff you carry around unless made of super durable material . Dunno how gꝏd materials being used in thin phones currently are
Also would only consider getting such thing if thinness was just purely cosmetic didn't sacrifice (performance|battery life|camera quality|.*)
69 Comments
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 352d
I wanted a small phone, not a thin phone. 😭
tahoe@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 352d
For every person who likes small phones, there’s a thousand people who’d rather buy a 7" behemoth. I’ll be using my 13 mini for as many years as I can, but we’ve lost the battle :(
At least the Air is probably more comfortable to use than the others
ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 352d
They tried for a few years and it obviously didn't sell very well. People want large screens.
Personally, as much as I like the idea of it and missing my iPhone 5, I couldn't bring myself to buy a Mini.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 352d
The mini was quite a compromised phone. And I get it, they have to make it look good. They don’t want some thick ass small phone with an apple logo on the back. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I want.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 352d
Bendgate 2.0
decended_being@midwest.social · 2 pts · 351d
Zach from JerryarigEverything is gonna snap this like a well tempered Hershey bar.
malwieder@feddit.org · 1 pts · 351d
Probably why it has a titanium frame even though aluminum would've been lighter. I guess if you really want to break it you can (as you can with any phone), but I doubt accidental bends will be an issue.
Horsey@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 352d
I really wanna see how successful this model will be. I’d never accept thinness as a trade off.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 352d
I'm interested. Thinness isn't as much of a draw as weight to me. I have a 16 Pro now and am kinda tired of how heavy it is. As long as the battery gets me through a 16 hour day that's all i need.
Also if I need extra battery life, they brought back the magsafe battery which i can keep in a backpack. Best of both worlds.
Also brought back bumper cases which I loved.
mnhs1@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 352d
ripcord@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 352d
but why
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 352d
They ran out of ideas when Steve Jobs died of ligma
treyf711@eviltoast.org · 14 pts · 352d
Who’s Steve Jobs?
ripcord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 351d
Who is ligmar?
B0rax@feddit.org · 6 pts · 352d
Because it looks impressive
Xatolos@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 351d
Because Samsung did it.
https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s25-edge/
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 351d
Samsung did it because it leaked Apple was always doing this.
It’s likely a test case for their upcoming foldable. If they make it this thin they can Cana decent idea of some of the failure modes of the foldable that they may not have predicted.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
So you can roll it. Probably.
MML@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 352d
You can actually feel the radiation!
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 352d
Leave it to Apple to put a small phone battery, to sell another battery for you to stick it outside the case, and kill the inside battery faster by using the most inefficient energy transfer technology. This must check all the money related boxes for their accountants. Bravo.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 351d
but next year they will invent the folding phone.
over_clox@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 352d
Camera bump madness!
By the way, for everyone that says you're supposed to buy a case for it, well hear me out...
Being expected to buy a case in addition to the separate purchase of the phone, well that means the phone itself isn't even complete. And it was literally engineered that way, some extra parts and assembly expected on your part.
But if you do opt for a phone case, well that case also holds in heat and makes it get even hotter while charging or in use, which itself is also not good for the device.
A properly designed device shouldn't have a camera bump, but should rather have a flush uniform and sturdy enough screen and shell that you shouldn't particularly even need a separate phone case in the first place.
Stovetop@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 352d
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 7 pts · 352d
on the iPhone 16 Pro (ofc I haven't seen the new phones so cannot yet say), even the case had a camera bump
Horsey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
I searched way harder than I should've needed to find a case that had a flush camera cutout for my 15 pro. Like, fuck me for not wanting to let the camera lens touch the table when I put it down lol.
over_clox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
Dayum ☹️
Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 352d
Hurl
tahoe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
Yeah it’s been this way for a while, even my 13 mini has one
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 1 pts · 352d
looks like one more even than that
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 1 pts · 352d
looks like one more even than that
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 10 pts · 352d
Only the 1 camera? And still the full width camera bump? And it's a full width camera bump that won't sit flat
sicjoke@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 352d
That camera bump contains the camera and the phones logic board. It’s basically the entire phone minus the battery and screen.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 352d
But Apple said it’s a special new hybrid camera that has two cameras in that one camera!
tahoe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
That « optical quality telephoto » garbage makes my blood boil
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 3 pts · 351d
i can’t believe the pro iphone has 8 cameras in 3 cameras!
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 351d
Wow! That’s a 2.6 cpc value! What an achievement!
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 2 pts · 351d
how many cameras does the front camera have? because if it’s not 3 it’s bringing down their cpc ratio
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 351d
it has three cameras..two are invisible.
B0rax@feddit.org · 8 pts · 352d
Believe it or not, I love this design.
realitista@piefed.world · 5 pts · 351d
I'm glad there's one person out there at least. Will you buy it though?
B0rax@feddit.org · 4 pts · 351d
No, I have an 15 pro which I will not be replacing anytime soon. But if I was to buy a new phone now, I would consider it.
realitista@piefed.world · 8 pts · 351d
Who wants this?
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 351d
people who think owning apple is a status symbol. that's who.
and it's the majority of consumers. apple has a very high attachment rate/image for the US consumer. especially among the upper middle class where not having an apple product/iphone is considered a mark of poverty.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz · -2 pts · 351d
This, unfortunately is universally true. It’s pure superficial nonsense, but such is a large % of humanity.
pentastarm@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 352d
Can't wait for this to get into the hands of JerryRigEverything
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 13 pts · 352d
the folding iphone is finally here!
pentastarm@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 352d
Hahahah love it
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 8 pts · 352d
haha it's an old meme
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 352d
Ok now make it twice as thick and half as tall.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 352d
Only twice? How about 4 times as thick?
If I could have a phone that lasts 4-6 days without a recharge, take my money!
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 351d
I just measured my iPhone 16 Pro’s thickness with a caliper, too lazy to read the actual specifications, got around 8-8.5mm. If we multiplied 5.6mm (iPhone 17 Air) by 4 that would be 22.4mm which is nearly 7/8” thick.
That would be an absolutely brick to lug around personally, I can barely fit my current phone with its otter box in my pocket as is and comfortably sit down.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 351d
I meant four times as thick as that new ultra thin design, but I'd even that that one you just said.
If that means I only need to charge once a week, I'm in
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 350d
Yes, to which I responded in my original comment with:
You’re talking almost a full inch.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 350d
Ah okay
I'd still take it
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 351d
so smaller battery (meaning you will need to replace it earlier, which is bad), larger screen than the base model while having a smaller capacity (making battery life even worse…) compromised cameras (no ultrawide and no telephoto, “optical quality” crop in does not count…), compromised speakers (only the amplified earpiece speaker?), possible durability issues (which may be partially remedied with a case, but that defeats the point of a thin phone…), worse thermals (esp. with the “Pro” chip, albeit one less GPU core, also will make battery life extra worse. iOS 26 is sure to make the thermals worse too…), and more expensive.
For what, a phone that’s a few mm thinner?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 351d
so you drop it faster, so then you have to buy a thick rubber case. Smart phones are stupid.
billwashere@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
To me the only purpose of this is to beta the thin design before a folding phone. Other than that, it’s kinda dumb.
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 4 pts · 352d
finally got 120hz in the base model too
uranibaba@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
Not even sub 6. 😞
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 351d
They are making stupid big phones to set themselves up for when they invent the folding screen models in 2026. Folders are great, but others have been making them for years.
uranibaba@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
I have seen one and I have my doubts. Perhaps another 10 years.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 352d
Camera bump
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 352d
After seeing this model was getting the A19 Pro, I was half expecting the Pro to get the M5. Honestly, depending on thermals and size, that could work.
Ste41th@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 351d
The A19 pro in the air is different from the one in the pro
Oberyn@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
Like the blue colour , but don't understand appeal of ultra thin phones
Remember my 1st reaction to macbꝏk airs I think , my very 1st thought wasz "unbelievably fragile , who would use this , what if you drop it"
IMHO there's sweet spot of phone thickness
B0rax@feddit.org · 3 pts · 352d
MacBook Airs are surprisingly robust though.
A lot of people really like the aesthetics of thin tech, be it phones, TVs, laptops, screens, watches, Coffee machines, …
It may not be for you, but it sure is for a lot of people.
Oberyn@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 351d
Ultrathinness in (TV|stationery monitor)s can understand , not so much for stuff you carry around unless made of super durable material . Dunno how gꝏd materials being used in thin phones currently are
Also would only consider getting such thing if thinness was just purely cosmetic didn't sacrifice (performance|battery life|camera quality|.*)
Wahots@pawb.social · 1 pts · 352d
Uh oh, it's gonna be the lumia 1520 all over again.
C1pher@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 344d
Thin... is this their definition of thin? That fucking camera will be a balancing problem.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 351d
Thin = more battery swap services anyone who says otherwise is Apple shill
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 351d
EU should mandate removable back phones like we used to have. Not this hot glued shit, save that for Tesla trucks.