There are a lot of English words that arose from memes. "Toilet," for instance, is like a four-layer-deep euphemism. The big development the internet brought to it was using more detailed imagery.
Absolutely! I love this stuff. So, etymologically, the English word "toilet" (meaning the fixture where we put pee and poop) derives from the French word "toile," meaning "cloth used for washing." It's actually also the source of the English word "towel." But the way it got from "towel" to "poop hole" is complicated, and basically predicated on the reality that humans are squeamish about poop but have to talk about it kind of a lot (to find a place to put it, or excuse oneself so that they can put it there).
When indoor flush toilets were first introduced, the fixture itself was called a "sanitary basin." The room was called a "water closet," named in contrast to an "earth closet" (which was a... ehm...*non-*flush toilet. Basically, poop in a bucket, burn the contents of the bucket. The "earth" was "night earth," yet another euphemism for "poop"). People would say that they needed to"go to the water closet" instead of saying "I gotta poop."
But over time, the euphemism weakened. Instead of seeming like a polite way to say "I gotta poop," it started to become more rude. This happened around the same time that people were putting the poop fixture into the room where you put on your wig or your makeup or whatever, which was already referred to as a "toilet" (referring specifically to the small cloth used in the process of getting ready in the morning, itself also the result of a bunch of euphemistic and memetic mutation). In that process, the word "water closet" started to apply directly to the fixture itself.
Then, over time, that euphemism also weakened, and the word "toilet" also started to seem rude. But again, this happened as people were putting the bathtub into the room with the poop fixture, so the room became the "bathroom" and the fixture became the "toilet." That particular one happened pretty recently, so depending on your location or your age your grandmother might've still called the fixture the "water closet."
And there are a bunch of other words that have been euphemisms or reverse euphemisms for the fixture or the room or the process (lavatory, washroom, powder room, crapper, commode, throne, drop a deuce, freshen up, see a man about a dog). One of my favorites is "spend a penny:" one of the first flush toilets (not invented by Thomas Crapper, though he would indeed go on to become a major manufacturer of the fixtures) was on display at a World's Fair. You could use a freshly-cleaned one, and even get a shoe shine at the same time, for a penny. They're all memes (ideas with symbolic meaning that spread from person to person), all because people are squeamish about poop but need to talk about it.
Which means that the journey of the word "toilet" is through a bunch of memes: Cloth -> room for makeup -> room with poop hole -> fixture where put poop.
The spend a penny one is written a little oddly, but public toilets in the UK used to require a payment of a penny to unlock the door in the 1800's. Pay as you shit
On the serious side, in the end O think it is because we tend to be people that enjoy well-written episodic shows and all but the last maybe 2 seasons of Golden Girls really fits the bill. They truly ran out of ideas by that time, sadly.
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cm0002@piefed.world · 76 pts · 333d
And just like that, memes evolve into their own language LMAO
usernamefactory@lemmy.ca · 66 pts · 332d
Astronaut, pointing his gun.
angrystego@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 332d
Magneto, being finally satisfied.
i_love_FFT@jlai.lu · 12 pts · 332d
So this is finally the way to foil LLMs
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 25 pts · 332d
Obi-Wan, on the high ground.
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 332d
Jack Nicholson, his head nodding.
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 4 pts · 332d
General Grievous, his delight in his greeting.
4am@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 332d
A woodsman, nodding slowly
Zuriz@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 332d
Dicaprio, his wine raised.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 332d
DiCaprio with a smoke & beer, pointing at tv screen.
wal_kr@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
Marty McFly, watching The Honeymooners premiere.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 333d
There’s evidence of memeing using Egyptian Hyroglyphs. Hyroglyphs basically being emoji.
Round and round history goes…
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 27 pts · 333d
Why use many words when one pic will do.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 12 pts · 332d
👆
consumptionone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 332d
Kevin, his chili on the floor.
angrystego@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 332d
Spidermen, pointing at each other.
Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com · 6 pts · 332d
Bearded man nods approvingly.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 332d
There are a lot of English words that arose from memes. "Toilet," for instance, is like a four-layer-deep euphemism. The big development the internet brought to it was using more detailed imagery.
noughtnaut@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 332d
Would you please explain about the
fifty waysfour layers?ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 331d
Absolutely! I love this stuff. So, etymologically, the English word "toilet" (meaning the fixture where we put pee and poop) derives from the French word "toile," meaning "cloth used for washing." It's actually also the source of the English word "towel." But the way it got from "towel" to "poop hole" is complicated, and basically predicated on the reality that humans are squeamish about poop but have to talk about it kind of a lot (to find a place to put it, or excuse oneself so that they can put it there).
When indoor flush toilets were first introduced, the fixture itself was called a "sanitary basin." The room was called a "water closet," named in contrast to an "earth closet" (which was a... ehm...*non-*flush toilet. Basically, poop in a bucket, burn the contents of the bucket. The "earth" was "night earth," yet another euphemism for "poop"). People would say that they needed to"go to the water closet" instead of saying "I gotta poop."
But over time, the euphemism weakened. Instead of seeming like a polite way to say "I gotta poop," it started to become more rude. This happened around the same time that people were putting the poop fixture into the room where you put on your wig or your makeup or whatever, which was already referred to as a "toilet" (referring specifically to the small cloth used in the process of getting ready in the morning, itself also the result of a bunch of euphemistic and memetic mutation). In that process, the word "water closet" started to apply directly to the fixture itself.
Then, over time, that euphemism also weakened, and the word "toilet" also started to seem rude. But again, this happened as people were putting the bathtub into the room with the poop fixture, so the room became the "bathroom" and the fixture became the "toilet." That particular one happened pretty recently, so depending on your location or your age your grandmother might've still called the fixture the "water closet."
And there are a bunch of other words that have been euphemisms or reverse euphemisms for the fixture or the room or the process (lavatory, washroom, powder room, crapper, commode, throne, drop a deuce, freshen up, see a man about a dog). One of my favorites is "spend a penny:" one of the first flush toilets (not invented by Thomas Crapper, though he would indeed go on to become a major manufacturer of the fixtures) was on display at a World's Fair. You could use a freshly-cleaned one, and even get a shoe shine at the same time, for a penny. They're all memes (ideas with symbolic meaning that spread from person to person), all because people are squeamish about poop but need to talk about it.
Which means that the journey of the word "toilet" is through a bunch of memes: Cloth -> room for makeup -> room with poop hole -> fixture where put poop.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 331d
The spend a penny one is written a little oddly, but public toilets in the UK used to require a payment of a penny to unlock the door in the 1800's. Pay as you shit
Jayve@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
You don't know how to use the three seashells!?
cm0002@piefed.world · 8 pts · 332d
Skibidi
Poik@pawb.social · 2 pts · 332d
https://youtu.be/HGaJYG_R-j4 The Cursed Conlang Circus 3 had a few entries last year that were very relevant here.
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net · 38 pts · 332d
Captain America, his memory ignited.
treesapx@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 332d
Old Captain, refuses call
IcedRaktajino@startrek.website · 37 pts · 333d
Geordi, in the bottom-left pane.
:::spoiler Translation
:::
negativenull@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 333d
Geordi, asking to have finger pulled
IcedRaktajino@startrek.website · 14 pts · 332d
Angry motorcycle guys, a chair thrown.
negativenull@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 332d
Peter Parker, crying
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 332d
Table cat, screamed and pointed at.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
Michael Caine distracting the authorities.

acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 332d
Geordi, the bottom.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 332d
I am now certain that this is exactly how this alien races language evolved.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 332d
Someone@ummthatguy@lemmy.world posted this a while back. Gold.ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 332d
Yo.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 332d
Yo indeed, lol. That makes sense.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 333d
Odo, grunting annoyedly.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 333d
Bob Belcher, donning his jacket on his way to the Cake show.
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 4 pts · 332d
Gene, his burger costume emitting a worrisome smell.
massacre@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 332d
This is the best meme I've seen this year. Congrats OP
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 9 pts · 332d
Lemmy is fluent in this.
tomenzgg@midwest.social · 8 pts · 332d
https://youtu.be/6ei81W228ww
jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 332d
Dorothy, annoyed with Blanche.
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 7 pts · 332d
I have a feeling there's a beautiful day in the future when someone asks "Do all Star Trek fans have an uncanny knowledge of 'Golden Girls'?"
And I'll just say "It's a long story."
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 332d
jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 332d
On the serious side, in the end O think it is because we tend to be people that enjoy well-written episodic shows and all but the last maybe 2 seasons of Golden Girls really fits the bill. They truly ran out of ideas by that time, sadly.
ummthatguy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 332d
Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 332d
Stick-figure spitting cereal
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 6 pts · 333d
Kakuranger police officer announcing the weekday.
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 6 pts · 333d
Boimler, his eye first fell on USS Titan's bridge.
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 332d
Jeremiah Johnson slowly nodding.
EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 332d
Shouldn't it be Lisa (Simpson) standing in front of a presentation screen? Or am I missing a meme?
Hackworth@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 332d