“We’ll be announcing,” Trump added. “They’re already under major investigation. A lot of the people that you would traditionally say are on the left [are] already under investigation.”
And yet again, the assassin is a CIS, White, Mormon, Maga Family Male.
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ceenote@lemmy.world · 146 pts · 353d
I've seen too many people take it for granted that the suspect not being a leftist means we're out of the woods. Facts have no bearing on who MAGA will blame. They still act like the attempts on Trump's life are the left's fault too, even after it was confirmed both would-be assassins were on the right.
There's nothing we can do to make facts penetrate the MAGA bubble. All we can do is use the facts to keep more people from getting captured by the MAGA bubble.
Nougat@fedia.io · 50 pts · 353d
UT Gov Spencer Cox talking about how he was "radicalized by Reddit and dark dark places on the internet" and then concluding that he's a "leftist."
lol no.
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 352d
Meanwhile, Reddit: How many subs can we ban for not moderating for Kirk hard enough?
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 10 pts · 352d
Spez: No no guys I'm one of the good ones, remember? We made a little safe space for The_Donald for a while and we just got rid of a bunch of Charlie Kirk stuff, we're doing what you wanted
Spez: No no seriously guys I'm one of you, I'm on your side
Spez: Jesus Christ stop it that hurts, stop it, you can't, you can't
zbyte64@awful.systems · 1 pts · 351d
Spez is too much of a useful tool for them to throw away.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 1 pts · 351d
I don't think he is useful (in either sense of the word). The whole format of Reddit sort of lends itself to long-form discussion and people disagreeing with their masters about things, and I think they will want to get rid of that whatever he tries to do to make it "compliant."
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 353d
Yeah, that's what we have on r/conservative and my local community forums right now.
They don't let facts get in the way of the outrage.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 353d
If facts and critical thinking stopped fascism world war 1 would still be called "the last great war" instead...
Hell, even if just appeasing fascists worked, there wouldn't have been a world war 2.
But the only way to stop fascism is violence. In a good government, the government does it.
In a fascist government...
It's usually another country's military who steps it. And that's a worse result for everyone involved.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 352d
Too bad no other country has such a military.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
Of course, in a country where everyone is just stealing whatever they can and no one dares tell President Pedophile anything he doesn't want to hear, the U.S. military will be on par with the Russian military soon.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 8 pts · 352d
Goebbels had a phrase for this strategy
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 353d
Can confirm. My MAGA relative did not get the memo that the shooter was on the right. Just like they didn't get the memo about all the other shooters in the past year and some change. They were and are all radical left lunatics. That's what Fox News and Facebook is spoon-feeding them.
Ileftreddit@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 353d
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 353d
Yep, they say it's the let's fault because everyone is calling them Nazis and facists. Well....if it quacks, it's a duck.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 353d
If it honks like a goose and walk like a goose....
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 352d
They have always wanted everyone who disagrees with them dead. This is just one of many excuses they may use for it. We're not out of the woods until/unless they're out of power.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org · 7 pts · 353d
People should have figured out it's a psychological civil war years ago.
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
I'd say so, too, but they were good at it. As Carlin mentioned, think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of them are stupider than that! I'm beginning to wonder where I fall, especially as things get on in life.
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 352d
That you're asking the question is a good sign you're on the upper half of the curve I'd say.
Nougat@fedia.io · 4 pts · 353d
I know what we can make penetrate the MAGA bubble.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 105 pts · 353d
The only crime "the left" is guilty of is failure to prosecute "the right" for their crimes when they had the chance
mateofeo85@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 352d
Soulg@ani.social · 12 pts · 352d
You mean the first time they let all the traitors off?
mcbenavides85@piefed.social · 4 pts · 352d
boydster@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 352d
Where is that Goofy meme at?
And we'll fuckin do it again! /sad
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 352d
It's not a failure when they're two sides of the same coin
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 352d
Probe what? Who is “the left”?
“Make shit up about people I don’t like” is the real answer.
Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 352d
It's in Project 25. This would have happened even without Kirk's murder, they are only using it as an excuse.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 352d
this is exactly why I am not really concerned about his murder
he was a shit person, the world is better off without him
the method of his death shouldn't have happened - he should have died crossing the street, like the rest of us, or something
his murder is being used by the fascists, but only because it is convenient - if not that, it would have been something else
the one upside to this is that the Nazis and dumb fucks are showing themselves on my Facebook and LinkedIn with posts of support for him
zbyte64@awful.systems · 2 pts · 351d
There are many people who don't know his rhetoric and are posting their support because they are going off what their media is saying
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 352d
Kind of the same thing with antifa. Who is in charge of antifa to be labeled a terrorist leader? At the end of the day, they don’t care and keep pushing towards totally facism while protecting child rapists.
PigsInClover@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 353d
Is “The Left” in the room with us?
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 353d
Yes. Mormons are far left extremist apparently.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
They left back during McCarthyism Era when the fascist nation purged the last of the free thinkers.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 353d
This is gonna be like when we went to war with Iraq because of 9/11, isn’t it
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 353d
Mormons have yellow cake? The should send the military to Mormon headquarters then.
But in all seriousness, yeah, it's going to be like that I think.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 353d
I’ve only known a few mormons and they always had cake
gdog05@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 353d
Sugar is christian meth
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 353d
Yeah, it's the vice they can indulge in since no caffeine and alcohol so it's over indulge in sugar.
It's why Crumbl Cookie are way too sweet, it's a Mormon founded company.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 353d
Ileftreddit@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 352d
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 40 pts · 352d
Make no mistake, a civil war is coming, trump is building his own private army (ICE) and now he's getting his intelligence services ramped up. this can't be good.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 352d
There are masked armed thugs in the streets disappearing people with no legal basis. The war already started a while ago.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 352d
It’s even worse than that (ICE).
Too many people missed this piece of recent news.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
:(
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
I think the best case scenario is that if we do get a civil war it will be an internal GOP one.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 353d
Because this guy was so far to the right. Makes sense. 🥴
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 353d
So Left it's Right, So Right it's Left.
Pop Tart Logic.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 353d
Something, something, horseshoe theory.
ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 352d
WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 353d
“If you look at the problem, the problem is on the left. It’s not on the right,”
ORLY?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk
"Robinson's grandmother said the entire family are Republicans and Trump supporters.[86] Robinson was registered to vote but not affiliated with any party, and there is no record of him voting in Washington County (of which St. George is the county seat).[1] Robinson had no criminal record prior to his arrest.[87]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators
"Federal charging documents described Boelter as acting with "the intent to kill, injure, harass, and intimidate Minnesota legislators".[6] His anti-abortion views are considered a possible motive.[50] Boelter was registered to vote in Oklahoma as a Republican for the 2004 United States presidential election, though on a state document in 2019, Boelter wrote that he had "no party preference".[8] A longtime Sleepy Eye, Minnesota, resident who knew Boelter as a fourth-grade student in his childhood town since 1976, told reporters he was stunned to learn that Boelter is a suspect in the attacks. He described Boelter as "a conservative who voted for President Donald Trump and was strongly against abortion rights""
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Florida
"Routh had a history of political activity online and offline, with his political engagement dating back to at least 1989.[34] Voting records showed that he did not vote in the 2016 elections,[35] but in a 2020 Twitter post, he claimed to have voted for Trump in 2016 and later regretted it.[36] In a self-published ebook in 2023, he wrote about his supposed previous support for Trump, saying, "I am man enough to say that I misjudged and made a terrible mistake."[37]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump_in_Pennsylvania
"FBI deputy director Paul Abbate described Crooks's activity on social networking services as antisemitic, anti-immigrant, extreme, and espousing political violence.[138] Crooks's Internet activity before the attack included searches related to the 2021 Oxford High School shooting and for other politicians and their events.[139]
He was a registered Republican;[129][140][141] his voter registration had been active since September 2021, the month he turned 18.[142][129]"
dhork@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 352d
How dare you! Why are you interrupting this time of national mourning with inconvenient facts?
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 352d
Saw a few lowered flags when doing things this weekend, holy fuck does that annoy the shit out of me.
These shitbags could not even keep the flag lowered for Carter, FFS. A mother-fucking President, and one that was a 1000x better than this piece of shit in the WH.
And they have it lowered for a fucking podcaster? What are we even doing here? Most people didn't even know who the fuck Kirk was until this shooting. It was mostly the political wonks and the terminally online that even knew who he was....
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
Is now a good time to talk about gun control? How about now? Now? 😉
dhork@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 352d
"Gun Control? Do you mean, like, trigger discipline? I control my gun really well when I point it at people I don't like"
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 352d
They don't care.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 353d
Like a lot of people are saying about all this stupidity
EPSTEIN FILES
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io · 11 pts · 353d
I've been wondering about those EPSTEIN FILES, as well. Where are they, whose on them?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 352d
So you think this is all just a distraction? And you think that releasing files that confirm what we already know about Trump's past is the real thing?
Did I get that right?
At this point, they'll be carting your family off to a prison in Africa and you'll still be shouting at their captors to stop distracting from Epstein.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 352d
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 353d
He hasn’t said a damn thing about Nick Fuentes
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 352d
Part4@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 353d
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 352d
Memphis, I believe is where they said to be planning to target next.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 352d
More rambling from the pedophile. He is blowing hot air, cause anytime MAGA goes to court and has to prove their claims, they lose immediately during discovery. Unless it's with a media corporation, they just bend over and do whatever their king tells them.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 352d
Hitler threatens major probe of "the Jews"...
Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 353d
Pretty much everything on Twitter is saying he was a leftist. Propaganda at its finest.
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 352d
Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 352d
Oh I know. But it’s also the best place to see mask off conservatives being unhinged.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 352d
By Friday hes gonna be like “Charlie who?”
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 352d
Nah, it's going to be "Donate to keep Charlie's WS mission alive!" for the next few years.
Grifters gotta keep grifting.
I do imagine his wife will be moving on soon though.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 351d
BREAKING NEWS KIRKS WIDOW NOW DATING NICK FUENTES, WINNER TAKES ALL SHE COMMENTS
RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 351d
Genuinely that would be fucking funny
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 353d
Oh look, an excuse to arrest his political enemies
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 353d
https://web.archive.org/web/20250915143309/https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-reveals-major-probe-of-the-left-over-charlie-kirk-assassination/
Nougat@fedia.io · 4 pts · 353d
Seems to be not working, alternate:
https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Ftrump-reveals-major-probe-of-the-left-over-charlie-kirk-assassination%2F
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 7 pts · 353d
What the FUCK is this story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZP-oCx3Dk
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
That seems to track with an AP article's reporting on the same hearsay. Sounds weak if not outright false.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 6 pts · 352d
This was the point of all the lawsuits against CBS, constantly blustering at the media and talking down to them, even all the way back to January 6th mobbing up on the reporters and beating them up and smashing their equipment. They're trying to look for people they can bully into going along with the fiction, paving the way for the horrors. And look, they found some.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 352d
But wait, there's more!
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/16/trump-to-sue-new-york-times-for-15-billion-alleging-defamation-and-libel-.html
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 2 pts · 352d
"But we're one of the good ones! We were adding conservative columnists! We said bad things about Biden all the time!"
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 352d
Yep. American institutions finding out the hard way that appeasement doesn't work with fascists. Again.
selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 351d
Murdered by a MAGAt. Murderer was from a MAGAt family. Left a note saying what he was going to do.
Dumbass-in-Chief: the violence of the left won't stand! How dare they not think I'm the bestest and brightest snowflake! WaaAAAAaaaa 🚼🧷
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES PEDONALD
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
Maybe he means that terrorist organization, Antifa.
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 352d
If this investigation promises to uncover an American politician who’s left of center, I will tentatively allow it.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
Soooooo....I guess "the left" now includes Fuentes and groypers?
Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 352d
Good then it will be easier for the right to plan his demise.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 352d
The only one getting probed is you, buddy. By the national guard's bayonet.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 352d
if you keep turning left, you'll arrive at exactly where you started.
Which is what this entire show is: moving in circles and never progressing. War in Ukraine is still on going, economy is fucked, trade war is on... etc.
Soup@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
What? What is that first sentence even supposed to mean?