Suspect in Charlie Kirk killing charged with aggravated murder, faces death penalty
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360826004/suspect-charlie-kirk-shooting-likely-face-charges-tuesday-first-court-hearing
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Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 353d
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 353d
Another MAGA bites the dust. They love killing their own kind.
just2look@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 353d
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie
Don't buy into the garbage journalism. Pay attention to what evidence they actually put forward.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 353d
the big issue I have with this take is that Groypers are known to treat Helldivers 2 as a Nazi bar, and these messages confirm that he was actively playing that game. coupled with the Groyper memes that were supposedly marked on the unshot bullets, he must at least have been familiar with Groyper ideology, if not being part of the movement himself.
just2look@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 353d
Him being familiar doesn't necessarily mean aligned. I'm just saying that assigning ideology with little to no evidence doesn't benefit anyone other than the media outlets that are trying to drum up outrage.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 353d
Interesting article about his Discord chats. Doesn't really speak to his beliefs, since he mostly spoke about games. I'm worried that Trump and Co aren't really worried about facts though. They've already decided this is a problem with Democrats.
sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 353d
I have seen literally zero evidence he was maga. It is alarming to me how fast people are latching onto that narrative. The confidence with which random strangers speak about him and his mental state is really gross.
Swordinferno@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 353d
The only evidence I have seen that may point to extreme-right beliefs would be the jokes on the bullet casings. The 'bella ciao' one could be in reference to a remix of the italian song that is popular among the "Groypers".
All we really know is the person was really into video games and internet culture.
Also, it's not just random internet strangers jumping to conclusions here. It's journalists, politicians, and government entities.
rowdy@piefed.social · 8 pts · 353d
While I wouldn’t call this evidence, it is an indication of the circles he frequented:
Both the Slav squat and Pepe are commonplace memes on 4chan and by extension, groypers.
mc900ftJesus@lemy.lol · 6 pts · 353d
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/tyler-robinson-family-republican-b2825943.html
He is at the very least a republican
sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 353d
So your evidence is that his grandma said his dad is a republican? Most of my family is republican too, and I'm a socialist. I'm gonna need more than that.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 353d
He was just as much a piece of shit as the piece of shit he shot. He was more MAGA than not.
motor_spirit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 353d
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 353d
I think the "aggravated" part is a bit of a given isnt it?
QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip · -4 pts · 353d
All political violence is fascism. Even if I didn't like the guy. Hang him high.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 353d
Dude isnt even convicted yet. Slow down lol.
QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 353d
I stopped adding "I hope due process is maintained so the trial can be fair" to all my messages because it was just a lot to type.
shani66@ani.social · 8 pts · 353d
That's just objectively not true