It’s a lot easier to blame anything else over accepting that a significant majority of the US (and probably the world) are either profound dullards or literal fascists.
Every day, I find that I am more disappointed and angry with the general populace. I get that they were propagandized and shit from birth. But like... So was I. And yet I somehow got a conscience and eyeballs to read.
I don't believe that. These people spend billions of dollars on media capture to put as many people as possible in a propaganda bubble. The more people you have in the bubble, the more awful shit you can get away with, which is why shit has gotten progressively worse as more people get segmented into echo chambers that foster extremism. It's resilient too, because you can also scam your audience with commemorative coins and stuff, which makes it self-sustain long enough for people to feel like it's just the way things always are. But I don't think it's just that people are awful. Too much money and effort goes into convincing people to be awful to each other for me to believe it's a natural condition.
Why is this being down voted? The people who voted for Trump knew exactly what they were voting for. How could they not? Trump is extremely transparent, even if he doesn't mean to be.
What they know is that trump is an asshole, a SAer, a grifter, and a con man. But as conservatives, they don’t frame it that way in their own heads. Instead they think of him as “ruthless”. For conservatives, anyone ruthless against their perceived enemies gets a pass to act as anti-Christian as necessary. What they didn’t think about is that he would fuck everything up economically and that his actions are in direct opposition to their own best interests. Conservatives don’t have the ability to think nuanced like that. To them the world is filled with out groups and enemies that must be vanquished at any cost. Even the future of the country.
Perhaps some do, but I refuse to believe the majority want a king or dictator. It's far more believable that a lot of voters were/are naive and really don't like how things were going, rightly or wrongly. They then unsurprisingly ignored the candidate who said everything is fine, you're the problem, and instead voted for the candidate who said you're not the problem, the problem is all this scary stuff on fox news and only I can fix it.
There's been a slow trickle of them realizing it, and the reason they're so desperate to control the narrative about kirk, is that the Maga base is a bunch of groups who hate each other and want different shit.
The more stuff trump does, it only makes a slice happy, And pisses off the rest of the pie since they weren't priority.
It's getting to the point where every trump voter has at least one thing they're unhappy about.
It may not seem like much, but it's that first crack that's going to lead to the big avalanche in midterms.
The brutal truth is that America was founded on the premise of no kings, and that if you want a king you should move to Britain and get the fuck out of America.
Yeah, I don't think the current British monarchy system is what they're looking for. The people who want a king in the US are looking more for something like Russia.
The funny thing that our king is just a funny old guy who comes out on a balcony to wave at parades, and not an autocrat who issues deranged new statements on an hourly basis and terrorises his own people by dictat and a vast personal militia force.
This is of course persuasive propaganda all US citizens are taught. The US was founded by wealthy people who ruthlessly took control of the colonies for their financial benefit.
Having said that, it is a popular sentiment that we are not a nation of kings. Not sure how that holds up with the billionaires manipulating our elections and directly controlling government agencies. I guess I may just be a little cynical about all this though.
Taught or not, propaganda or not. Any idea can become reality given enough momentum.
My take is that monarchies, fascism, these aren't natural ways for people to live. Even if freedoms aren't guaranteed, people will always strive for them. So even if you're right, and I'm inclined to agree with much of what you said, I figure heck, might as well fight to make the dream a reality, especially if it was never real to begin with.
I disagree. A good number of them did but there’s also a good number of them who are out of touch and don’t pay attention. There are a significant number of people who that just check R or D down the line without doing the homework about them. The US is absolutely loaded with uninformed voters and it shows.
Few actually think of him as a king anymore than they think Hitler was a king. They want a leader and don't give a fuck about the title as long as the power to unilaterally change shit is on their side.
Trump built his coalition on Democratic failure. He already had 49%.
The fraction that got him over the finish line was comprised of voters who stayed home, because they got poorer after foregoing a day's pay four years ago to vote Joe Biden, and people who flipped, because Democrats not only failed them but ran the most tone deaf and stupid campaign any of us has ever seen. (Like telling tens of millions of people struggling economically to, you know, just be joyful for three months.)
Further, Republican voters were lied to on every issue except immigration and RFK.
Time to stop finger wagging and realize how much Democrats suck, and if you're fortunate enough to live where one is electable, vote for a Mamdani.
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Triumph@fedia.io · 28 pts · 333d
It’s a lot easier to blame anything else over accepting that a significant majority of the US (and probably the world) are either profound dullards or literal fascists.
People, on the whole, are awful.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 333d
Every day, I find that I am more disappointed and angry with the general populace. I get that they were propagandized and shit from birth. But like... So was I. And yet I somehow got a conscience and eyeballs to read.
People are just so incredibly lazy.
oddlyqueer@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 331d
I don't believe that. These people spend billions of dollars on media capture to put as many people as possible in a propaganda bubble. The more people you have in the bubble, the more awful shit you can get away with, which is why shit has gotten progressively worse as more people get segmented into echo chambers that foster extremism. It's resilient too, because you can also scam your audience with commemorative coins and stuff, which makes it self-sustain long enough for people to feel like it's just the way things always are. But I don't think it's just that people are awful. Too much money and effort goes into convincing people to be awful to each other for me to believe it's a natural condition.
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 333d
Why is this being down voted? The people who voted for Trump knew exactly what they were voting for. How could they not? Trump is extremely transparent, even if he doesn't mean to be.
skeezix@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 333d
What they know is that trump is an asshole, a SAer, a grifter, and a con man. But as conservatives, they don’t frame it that way in their own heads. Instead they think of him as “ruthless”. For conservatives, anyone ruthless against their perceived enemies gets a pass to act as anti-Christian as necessary. What they didn’t think about is that he would fuck everything up economically and that his actions are in direct opposition to their own best interests. Conservatives don’t have the ability to think nuanced like that. To them the world is filled with out groups and enemies that must be vanquished at any cost. Even the future of the country.
LapleMeaf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
SAer?
skeezix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 333d
sexual assault
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 333d
Ah the good ol’ NYT Opinion column.
Hittin’ hard! Not giving a fuck!
Yep. The ol’ Opinion column.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 332d
I don't see why you can't say the people wanted this AND most of the medias these days are oligarchs propagandas tools at the same time.
Dogyote@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 332d
Perhaps some do, but I refuse to believe the majority want a king or dictator. It's far more believable that a lot of voters were/are naive and really don't like how things were going, rightly or wrongly. They then unsurprisingly ignored the candidate who said everything is fine, you're the problem, and instead voted for the candidate who said you're not the problem, the problem is all this scary stuff on fox news and only I can fix it.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
They really didn't...
There's been a slow trickle of them realizing it, and the reason they're so desperate to control the narrative about kirk, is that the Maga base is a bunch of groups who hate each other and want different shit.
The more stuff trump does, it only makes a slice happy, And pisses off the rest of the pie since they weren't priority.
It's getting to the point where every trump voter has at least one thing they're unhappy about.
It may not seem like much, but it's that first crack that's going to lead to the big avalanche in midterms.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 4 pts · 333d
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 333d
The brutal truth is that America was founded on the premise of no kings, and that if you want a king you should move to Britain and get the fuck out of America.
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 332d
Yeah, I don't think the current British monarchy system is what they're looking for. The people who want a king in the US are looking more for something like Russia.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 332d
Or indeed, a system like the one America was originally founded on, where the government was selected by wealthy slave owners
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
If George Washington hadn't died in his sixties he would have been on track to become the first US Billionaire adjusted for inflation.
Same as it ever was.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 333d
The funny thing that our king is just a funny old guy who comes out on a balcony to wave at parades, and not an autocrat who issues deranged new statements on an hourly basis and terrorises his own people by dictat and a vast personal militia force.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
This is of course persuasive propaganda all US citizens are taught. The US was founded by wealthy people who ruthlessly took control of the colonies for their financial benefit.
Having said that, it is a popular sentiment that we are not a nation of kings. Not sure how that holds up with the billionaires manipulating our elections and directly controlling government agencies. I guess I may just be a little cynical about all this though.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 331d
Taught or not, propaganda or not. Any idea can become reality given enough momentum.
My take is that monarchies, fascism, these aren't natural ways for people to live. Even if freedoms aren't guaranteed, people will always strive for them. So even if you're right, and I'm inclined to agree with much of what you said, I figure heck, might as well fight to make the dream a reality, especially if it was never real to begin with.
x00z@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 331d
I live in a country with a king.
I'll say it as I said it before:
A king does not mean dictator. Parliament in my country for example has more power than the king.
Mericuhh got themselves a dictator, and not a king.
Dagamant@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
I disagree. A good number of them did but there’s also a good number of them who are out of touch and don’t pay attention. There are a significant number of people who that just check R or D down the line without doing the homework about them. The US is absolutely loaded with uninformed voters and it shows.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
the voters of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by about 776,000 this time :/
surph_ninja@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
The majority rejected both. Non-voters are the most influential voting block.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 333d
Few actually think of him as a king anymore than they think Hitler was a king. They want a leader and don't give a fuck about the title as long as the power to unilaterally change shit is on their side.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 333d
Then the majority are morons
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 333d
100% incorrect
Trump built his coalition on Democratic failure. He already had 49%.
The fraction that got him over the finish line was comprised of voters who stayed home, because they got poorer after foregoing a day's pay four years ago to vote Joe Biden, and people who flipped, because Democrats not only failed them but ran the most tone deaf and stupid campaign any of us has ever seen. (Like telling tens of millions of people struggling economically to, you know, just be joyful for three months.)
Further, Republican voters were lied to on every issue except immigration and RFK.
Time to stop finger wagging and realize how much Democrats suck, and if you're fortunate enough to live where one is electable, vote for a Mamdani.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 333d
What