Why list "trials, judges, reviews, juries, appeals" all of this as if it's more than one thing that often times doesn't work. Most of the convictions in the US are plea deals, they literally put you in a jail and tell you to say what they want or they'll make things worse and the only way you can avoid this is to have money to make bail.
If your boss steals from your wages you have to jump through hoops to try and get it back and they don't serve time. If you are accused of taking money from the company you are taken away by the state and put in jail till it can be proven you didn't. You can't expect me to trust that the system works in my favor when the system is clearly designed to not work in my favor.
Again, if you can provide me with a quote and source where Charlie Kirk said Joe Biden should be “executed,” I will change my opinion on his assassination being justified.
I think you mean "received a death penalty for his actions" instead of "assassination".
execution is the killing part. it may be done by 3rd parties outside of the law (ie murder), or it could be the final part of a legal proceeding that leads to the death penalty
the death penalty is the conviction at the end of a legal proceeding
saying someone deserves the death penalty (ie jumping right to their conviction) skips the trial and sentencing etc of a normal legal proceeding. it’s not at all the same as saying someone should be tried for treason
he said that joe biden should be killed by the state no matter how you spin it
I'm sorry but why does whether or not an execution is sanctioned by the state matter in any way to you as a user of an anarchist instance? I genuinely cannot comprehend why that's even a factor in your argument???
Again, if you can provide me with a quote and source where Charlie Kirk said Joe Biden should be “executed,” I will change my opinion on his assassination being justified.
No you won't. You'll just argue semantics like your dead nazi hero.
Until the users start brigading, harassing, or other unsocial behaviors I don't think hilarious chaos should be defederated. I don't agree with her but I haven't personally seen instance wide bad behavior from its users.
I've been saying that place is bad news for a while but no one listened to me and said "Oh they're not that bad, they just have dIFfeRenT oPiNIonS". PTB.
Admins who see this, you should really defed hilariouschaos and censure in fediseer. Instances like ExplodingHeads and Hilariouschaos cannot and should not be tolerated.
41 Comments
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 103 pts · 344d
How is him saying Joe Biden should be executed for treason not advocating for violence?
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 47 pts · 344d
It's not violence if you imply an institution, silly!
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -89 pts · 344d
snooggums@piefed.world · 90 pts · 344d
The death penalty is the sentence. Execution is the act.
When someone is put to death by the state, the act itself is called an execution. They do it in a literal execution chamber.
Calling for the death penalty and calling for an execution mean the exact same thing.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 344d
Executions are state violence.
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -56 pts · 344d
Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 42 pts · 344d
Why list "trials, judges, reviews, juries, appeals" all of this as if it's more than one thing that often times doesn't work. Most of the convictions in the US are plea deals, they literally put you in a jail and tell you to say what they want or they'll make things worse and the only way you can avoid this is to have money to make bail.
If your boss steals from your wages you have to jump through hoops to try and get it back and they don't serve time. If you are accused of taking money from the company you are taken away by the state and put in jail till it can be proven you didn't. You can't expect me to trust that the system works in my favor when the system is clearly designed to not work in my favor.
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -33 pts · 344d
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 26 pts · 344d
It’s not though.
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -22 pts · 344d
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 344d
And that's why you're standing up for Charlie Kirk's call for execution.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 342d
"I want my political enemies killed," versus "I want my political enemies killed by my political allies."
Very nuanced.
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 344d
Jesus F Christ... do you right-wingers ever remove your heads from your own arrses, like... ever?
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -51 pts · 344d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 344d
Prefer fascist?
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -28 pts · 344d
emilygage@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 344d
If you don't want people to call you a fascist then stop acting like a fascist.
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -21 pts · 344d
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 34 pts · 344d
execution and death penalty are synonyms
floop@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 343d
SorteKanin@feddit.dk · 32 pts · 344d
Whatever he actually said (I don't know) what is the meaningful difference between "death penalty" and "execute"?
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 11 pts · 344d
How explicitly an institution is involved. Obviously makes it okay and nonviolent.
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -51 pts · 344d
can@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 344d
Legal does not equal moral
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -20 pts · 344d
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 24 pts · 344d
I think you mean "received a death penalty for his actions" instead of "assassination".
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 19 pts · 344d
so let’s break it down
execution is the killing part. it may be done by 3rd parties outside of the law (ie murder), or it could be the final part of a legal proceeding that leads to the death penalty
the death penalty is the conviction at the end of a legal proceeding
saying someone deserves the death penalty (ie jumping right to their conviction) skips the trial and sentencing etc of a normal legal proceeding. it’s not at all the same as saying someone should be tried for treason
he said that joe biden should be killed by the state no matter how you spin it
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -21 pts · 344d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 344d
You'd be hilarious as satire
SorteKanin@feddit.dk · 19 pts · 344d
In my opinion that distinction is paper thin, but you do you.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 344d
I'm sorry but why does whether or not an execution is sanctioned by the state matter in any way to you as a user of an anarchist instance? I genuinely cannot comprehend why that's even a factor in your argument???
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 16 pts · 344d
Because he's a conservative sealioning.
GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -18 pts · 344d
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 344d
No you won't. You'll just argue semantics like your dead nazi hero.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 343d
Of all the hairs to split this was a pretty ridiculous one
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 49 pts · 344d
remember to ask your admins to defederate, if they haven’t already
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 37 pts · 344d
From both hilarious chaos and MAGA place.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 344d
Until the users start brigading, harassing, or other unsocial behaviors I don't think hilarious chaos should be defederated. I don't agree with her but I haven't personally seen instance wide bad behavior from its users.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 27 pts · 344d
The admin, mods and users are all toxic and the fediverse would be better without them.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 344d
It's called being proactive.
If you want to wait and see the hate spread, setting up your own instance is an option.
PlasticLove@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 344d
Nah defed from the scum.
glimse@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 344d
Would not be surprised if it was one user with several accounts
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 38 pts · 344d
Yeah... no. Fuck both Toilet Paper USA and it's miserable excuse for a human being founder.
Chozo@fedia.io · 30 pts · 344d
I don't think they were ever hiding those colors.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 8 pts · 344d
Black, white and red?
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 344d
Oh they definitely do. we're totally completely different from them
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 344d
Not unexpected from that shit hole of an instance. PTB and hair gross behavior. Glad our instance doesn't federate with them.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 344d
Big shocker this one
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 343d
I misread this and thought the removed comment was by alice, lol.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 340d
I've been saying that place is bad news for a while but no one listened to me and said "Oh they're not that bad, they just have dIFfeRenT oPiNIonS". PTB.
Admins who see this, you should really defed hilariouschaos and censure in fediseer. Instances like ExplodingHeads and Hilariouschaos cannot and should not be tolerated.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world · 2 pts · 327d
Facts are propaganda?
PTB definitely
What's up with that instance btw? Is it another right wing echo chamber?