Neon, the No. 2 social app on the Apple App Store, pays users to record their phone calls and sells data to AI firms

https://techcrunch.com/2025/09/24/neon-the-no-2-social-app-on-the-apple-app-store-pays-users-to-record-their-phone-calls-and-sells-data-to-ai-firms/

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/54293207

people are doing this willingly??!!!

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A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 32 pts · 330d (2 replies)

Already pulled off the store because people could hack it and listen to other people's phone calls:

https://lemmy.zip/post/49566845

@shyguyblue@lemmy.world makes an important argument though: what about the other part in every phone call? Did they consent, too?

shyguyblue@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 330d

🥂 Here's hoping the fallout will rain down on the developers.

Quexotic@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 329d

Lol. Of course the security is garbage.

shyguyblue@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 331d (5 replies)

I'm sure this is no way a legal kerfuffle just waiting to happen.

Some states have single party consent laws, what happens when they call someone who's in a two party consent law state? Are they going to add in a "this call is being monitored to help train our slop generator" message?

Fuck it, popcorn

Edit: I just realized a great way to sour the data: Only use the app when calling call centers. Enjoy listening to the "updated menu options" that haven't changed in years, the shitty hold music, and the insufferable "your call is important to us, but not important enough to upgrade our staff" bullshit. I don't miss voice calls...

neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 330d (3 replies)

My first thought was setting this up on a separate or spare phone and then just having it call to call centers with no long old times

Grimtuck@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 330d (2 replies)

I was going with calling the speaking clock and talking in tongues.

shyguyblue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 330d

Thank yew fer callin one nine hunred jeeez uss!

Quexotic@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 329d

Better still, use special audio encoding to poison the model.

maus@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 330d

Maybe read the article where it already states it only records your side of the conversation?

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 331d

This just in: Humans are fucking stupid. More tonight at 11.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 330d

Strangely reminiscent of the toilet paper dispensers in China: free if you watch an ad first.

edit: no, this is actually worse. But both are cases where data mining and advertisment find their way into our most personal lives. But I also remember something about facial recognition & toilets...

Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social · 2 pts · 330d

Man, they can record me screwing with the Medicare/car warranty/problem with my Google listing calls all day and pay me.