Trump memorandum brands anti-fascism and opposition to capitalism as “domestic terrorism”

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/09/27/npou-s27.html

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Deflated0ne@lemmy.world · 112 pts · 345d (8 replies)

Hasn't it always been treated as such?

The fedboys were moving around Occupy like they were engineering a coup in a poor brown country.

So orange boy made it official?

MurrayL@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 345d (1 reply)

It’s McCarthyism 2.0, as American as apple pie

bigfondue@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 345d
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Fandangalo@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 345d (3 replies)

Between this and the recent NSPM-7, the difference is the outward rhetorical combined with a directive of “pre-action”: stop these things before they commit crimes.

This changes the state of things into truly thought policing, not through unspoken, implicit societal norms, but with the authority and blunt force of the regime’s might.

It feels like we’re being fomented into a civil war while strategically weakening us on the global stage. It’s almost like the duty to the constitution & country has “left the chat.” I say “almost” because I have 3 kids and don’t want to be disappeared.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 19 pts · 345d (2 replies)

“pre-action”: stop these things before they commit crimes.

This changes the state of things into truly thought policing, not through unspoken, implicit societal norms, but with the authority and blunt force of the regime’s might.

Yes. What was the name of that movie again... Anyhow this sort of shit has been quietly happening in many countries now, all at least partly inspired by the USA's "War on Terrorism".

black0ut@pawb.social · 7 pts · 345d

Minority Report is the name of the movie, for anyone curious.

Fandangalo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d

Quietly because we were ashamed. Loud because now we’re proud of it.

I leave it to the public to judge which of those are better.

NONE_dc@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 345d

The problem is not that he says it, but that he says it out loud.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 9 pts · 345d

So orange boy made it official?

Yes. Though others before him weren't exactly quiet about it either.

shalafi@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 345d (2 replies)

This is so much worse than most of y'all seem to be taking it. This officially, with the force of law, turns anyone against the regime into a terrorist. The government has extra resources and abilities to go after terrorists, and the charge carries heavy prison time. Also, district attorneys love terrorism charges as wins on their record. They'll happily nail any one of us.

To my mind, nothing Trump has ever done is this scary.

Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 345d (1 reply)

There is no such thing as a domestic terrorist list. So idk what he's even adding them too.

kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 344d

I'll bet there's a list, call it whatever you want.

biofaust@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 344d (2 replies)

Ok, I am definitely not setting foot in the US for a long while. Let's be realistic, probably ever again.

sheogorath@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 343d (1 reply)

The company I work on now requires you to sign a waiver if you're ever got sent to US for a project.

biofaust@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 343d

Nice! During the duration of the project or ever ever?

9point6@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 345d

Please do not struggle in the face of your certain demise

sparky@lemmy.federate.cc · 41 pts · 345d (3 replies)

Republican thought experiment: if Trump is the sworn enemy of anti fascists, then what does that make him?

wabafee@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 344d (1 reply)

Mad toothbrush moustache person?

AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 344d

He just wears the mustache on the inside.

CarrmynCarnage@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 343d

If they had enough material between their ears they could figure out what the opposite of an anti-fascist is. They're almost there but the neurons can't quite reach.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 344d

Isn't domestic terrorism sending troops into your own cities when there is no reason (or a made up reason) for it?

Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 344d (3 replies)

Then call me a terrorist.

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 344d (2 replies)

Please don't make me do this.

Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 344d (1 reply)

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 344d

ur a tewwowist uwu :3c

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 345d

So...thought police?

Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org · 24 pts · 345d
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kingofras@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 345d (1 reply)

Remember to stay focused people

CXORA@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 344d

You can and should care about more than one thing at a time. Don't let the Epstein files blind you to everything else happening

Kurious84@lemmings.world · 8 pts · 345d

Projection

fodor@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 343d (1 reply)
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parlaptie@feddit.org · 3 pts · 343d

You're confusing capitalism with liberalism. They're very much capitalists.

discosnails@lemmy.wtf · 6 pts · 344d

Welp.

hellfire103@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 344d (1 reply)

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CarrmynCarnage@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 343d

...Yeah.

humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 344d

Capitalism is a useless word because few people understand it the same. The supremacy of capital owning class is the most common understanding of both pro and anti Capitalists.

But Capitalism is originally defined as free and fair markets, and so against Supremacist corruption of markets where the counterparty negotiation class is necessarily oppressed.

So exterminating all government supremacist supporting politician minions, and nationalizing all of their donors' assets is the real proper interpretation of these domestic terrorists. But a bigger problem than intending the opposite, is that it is subject to absolutist expansion of supremacism. Refusing 16 hour shifts, or corporal punishment authority granted to your managers, or not letting a better richer capitalist destroy the land/property of a lesser poorer owner becomes anti-capitalist when Fox news/CNBC tells you it is.

shaggyb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 344d

Well my memorandum brands him as a turd.