Ford CEO Jim Farley Says Tesla, GM, And Blue Oval Are No Match For Chinese

https://fordauthority.com/2025/10/ford-ceo-jim-farley-says-tesla-gm-and-blue-oval-are-no-match-for-chinese/

“The competitive reality is that the Chinese are the 700-pound gorilla in the EV industry,” Farley said in a recent appearance on The Verge‘s Decoder podcast. “There’s no real competition from Tesla, GM, or Ford with what we’ve seen from China. It is completely dominating the EV landscape globally and more and more outside of China.”

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altasshet@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 344d (1 reply)

The funny thing about Ford is - they do make smaller, more efficient cars. They just don't sell then in North America. You see then all over Europe...

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 344d

It's the North American vehicles that are garbage. Just big.

reddig33@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 344d

I hate articles like this because: a) “And whose fault is that?” You’re the fucking CEO. It’s your decisions that got your company into this position. b) This comes off as “Wah. We want some of that cheap overworked slave labor like they have in China. And some of those sweet government subsidies like they have too. Fuck unions and fuck paying your employees a living wage.”

FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 13 pts · 344d (12 replies)

And 'Murican vehicles are generally shit

Instead of making things more efficient, they just made shit bigger

Look at what other car makers get out of a two litre engine, but ohhhhhh no, not in' Murica...

And they don't handle. Their cars, their motorbikes, they are simply unable to build something that goes around a corner well

halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 344d (3 replies)

And all of that is because they don't want to actually compete. They've lobbied for foreign competition to be impossible so they can do whatever they want to optimize profits with minimal interference here.

FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 7 pts · 344d (2 replies)

Yep

Elmo lobbied and successfully kept BYD out of the US

BYD make better vehicles

Tesla rely on BYD batteries, and so do many other vehicle manufacturers

It's corrupt as fuck

halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 344d (1 reply)

Oh it goes way back before BYD and EVs. US carmakers lobbied for all sorts of requirements to make vehicles from the likes of Honda and Toyota in Japan illegal. Those companies decided that the market was worth developing separate designs to conform to those requirements, and to setup the dealership networks required in most States as well.

Looking at the BYD options available, and the prices for them, even accounting for monetary differences, Americans have gotten used to being fucked by the car companies at every step, and somehow still seem to defend those companies.

FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 344d

Oh, I'm well aware of the history

artyom@piefed.social · 8 pts · 344d (2 replies)

America makes big vehicles because fuel is cheap. Fuel is cheap because it's subsidized by the gov. Stop subsidizing fossil fuels. Subsidize EVs more. There's no downside.

Europe still has mostly small vehicles because it costs a fortune to drive trucks and SUVs.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 344d (1 reply)

Trucks and SUV don't fit on European roads and forget ever parking one.

artyom@piefed.social · 1 pts · 344d

Really? So you don't have any commercial vehicles? Everyone makes deliveries in sedans and hatchbacks?

SOULFLY98@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 344d (4 replies)

And they don’t handle. Their cars, their motorbikes, they are simply unable to build something that goes around a corner well

There's something like a 40 pound difference between the average American man and the average Chinese man.

So in a vehicle that seats five, there would be on average an extra 200 pounds of human sloshing around their seats while they steer one-handed with a burger in the other hand and a Big Gulp between their thighs.

FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 5 pts · 344d (1 reply)

It's more that they have shitty suspension, chassis rigidity, centre of mass

And making an engine bigger rather than more efficient adds a huge amount of weight

SOULFLY98@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 344d
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HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 344d (1 reply)

Don't misjudge Americans.

They put the Big Gulp in one of the car's 17 cupholders.

SOULFLY98@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 343d

Hah! I actually removed the second comment because it got a little derisive. But I'll stand by my premise that Americans want/need bigger cars and handling was never an important thing in American car culture.

burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 344d

🎻 it's the world's smallest violin playing just for him

"CEO admits that he sucks at his job"

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 344d (1 reply)

What the fuck is Blue Oval

al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com · 6 pts · 344d

Lol fords old logo was the blue oval.