They're not mini human brains though. They're little clusters of cells. The BBC's headline is deliberately (and irresponsibly) provocative and misleading.
A human brain isn't just a lump of brain cells, it's an exquisitely intricate assemblage of brain cells in very precisely organized networks that perform very specific functions. Without the organization, the same number of brain cells are not a brain
We flat out do not understand consciousness. There was a case of a guy living a normal life while missing 90% of his brain. Who knows how many undocumented cases there are or what the limits are? Until we understand whether or not we’re creating consciousness and the nature of it, we shouldn’t be fucking around with anything that could wind up being conscious in any capacity that exists only as a part of a machine.
Why not? I think it's only a concern if the consciousness is aware of alternatives. Plenty of conscious creatures live an awesome life while comprehending maybe 5% of wtf is going on around them.
Most people don't wake up every day depressed that they weren't born in the future with awesome tech around them. Would be nice, but hardly an existential crisis imo.
Not really. A child is perfectly happy forever playing a basic game like arranging something by size, color, etc., but to a fully developed adult that is boring at best and torture if they were forced to do it.
That is exactly being pedantic. Nobody is concerned about the state right now but the end goal here. It is a fully functional brain that can be on par with the real counterpart. If you support this research, do you also support psycho pass kinda shit as well? Because that's exactly where this is going.
What the fuck has happened to the BBC? Last week they had huge headlines about a "cure" for Huntington's disease which was nothing but hyping a drug company press release that was no where near reality.
I read somewhere that when they were envisioning the storyline for The Matrix, the original idea was supposed to be that human grey matter powered it in a computational sense. This kind of tracks, given the brain can perform outstanding feats running at a measly 20 watts or whatever it is, but somehow the story got distorted into its eventual form in which the human body is acting as a grossly inefficient battery.
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Sendpicsofsandwiches@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 331d
Oh good! Technological horrors beyond my comprehension
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 331d
They're not mini human brains though. They're little clusters of cells. The BBC's headline is deliberately (and irresponsibly) provocative and misleading.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 331d
so brains, but smaller
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 331d
Not really. Brain cells, but not in a brain.
Beacon@fedia.io · 12 pts · 331d
A human brain isn't just a lump of brain cells, it's an exquisitely intricate assemblage of brain cells in very precisely organized networks that perform very specific functions. Without the organization, the same number of brain cells are not a brain
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 331d
We flat out do not understand consciousness. There was a case of a guy living a normal life while missing 90% of his brain. Who knows how many undocumented cases there are or what the limits are? Until we understand whether or not we’re creating consciousness and the nature of it, we shouldn’t be fucking around with anything that could wind up being conscious in any capacity that exists only as a part of a machine.
daq@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 331d
Why not? I think it's only a concern if the consciousness is aware of alternatives. Plenty of conscious creatures live an awesome life while comprehending maybe 5% of wtf is going on around them.
Most people don't wake up every day depressed that they weren't born in the future with awesome tech around them. Would be nice, but hardly an existential crisis imo.
RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 331d
Bruh that's like saying abuse is fine if they never see the light. It's still conscious that WILL be used like a slave in our capitalistic hell scape.
daq@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 331d
Not really. A child is perfectly happy forever playing a basic game like arranging something by size, color, etc., but to a fully developed adult that is boring at best and torture if they were forced to do it.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 329d
No one was leading a normal life missing 90% of their brain.
RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 331d
I would call a mobile a mini pc even if the architecture is different. Let's not be pedantic about it.
Beacon@fedia.io · 4 pts · 331d
It's not pedantic, your analogy isn't even close. The analogy would be if you had a pile of unconnected transistors
RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 330d
That is exactly being pedantic. Nobody is concerned about the state right now but the end goal here. It is a fully functional brain that can be on par with the real counterpart. If you support this research, do you also support psycho pass kinda shit as well? Because that's exactly where this is going.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 329d
What the fuck has happened to the BBC? Last week they had huge headlines about a "cure" for Huntington's disease which was nothing but hyping a drug company press release that was no where near reality.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 331d
This is what the Matrix should have been about.
clucose@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 331d
Finally we can live in the 90s again.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 331d
Arguably, the best decade we had.
billwashere@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 331d
Fucking batteries?!?! This makes so much more sense.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 331d
Allegedly it was originally about basically this, but they dumbed it down to be about batteries for fear of audiences of the time not understanding.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 331d
Maybe they needed more energy and manipulate the brain cells to grow humans.
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 331d
Can you not?
Erasmus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 331d
tunetardis@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 331d
I read somewhere that when they were envisioning the storyline for The Matrix, the original idea was supposed to be that human grey matter powered it in a computational sense. This kind of tracks, given the brain can perform outstanding feats running at a measly 20 watts or whatever it is, but somehow the story got distorted into its eventual form in which the human body is acting as a grossly inefficient battery.
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 331d
And it would explain why Neo is able to modify the Matrix: it's partly running inside his head.
But no, it's an urban legend, it was supposed to be batteries from the first draft.
TheBat@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 331d
ArgentRaven@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 331d
If it's not now, it will be in a few years. I can't wait for the shocking reveal in 10 years that we've been using fully grown brains in everything.
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 331d
In the same way you've enslaved your liver and lungs, sure.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 281d
Auli@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 331d
Isn't this how alita got her brain?
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
mini brain, mega eyes
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 330d
I always knew it would end with this
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 329d
Wait until you guys find out where hamburgers and chicken wings come from.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 281d
mini human brains grown in a lab?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 281d
It's mini human brains grown in a lab all the way down!
SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 330d
Omnissiah by praised, a new servitors is here!
njm1314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
Future Generations, if there are any, will refer to this as the beginning of the end.