Israel accused of detaining Greta Thunberg in infested cell and making her hold flags

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/04/greta-thunberg-israel-gaza-sweden

Exclusive: Activist tells Swedish officials she has been subjected to harsh treatment, including insufficient food and water

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drkt@scribe.disroot.org · 134 pts · 337d (24 replies)

They dragged little Greta [Thunberg] by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others,”

expatriado@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 337d

daddy usa lets me do whatever i want

caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 337d

Yeah exactly, "making her hold flags".
:/

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 337d (4 replies)

Where is the original from?

pantherina@feddit.org · 1 pts · 336d (2 replies)

This. Just dropping a quote without a source?

Edit: it is from just that article

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 336d (1 reply)
pantherina@feddit.org · 2 pts · 336d

Lol it is from the actual article above

mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d
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CannonFodder@lemmy.world · -71 pts · 337d (16 replies)

Of course this isn't acceptable. But it's hardly a balanced report. For instance, she's 22 - hardly a little girl.

undergroundoverground@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 337d (3 replies)

The description is of her size, not her age.

CannonFodder@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 336d (2 replies)

Oh, so there was another Greta on the boat who was bigger, and they just used big/little to distinguish?
Or were they trying to imply Greta is physically weak, or fits in small places? Wft does is make a difference if she's 'little'? Torturing anyone is bad. I'd say it's especially bad to torture a child; which is what the quote was trying to imply.

Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 336d (1 reply)

Surely you are not this dense

CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 335d

Please don't call me Shirley.

Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 337d

This quote says little Greta, not little girl.

4Robato@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 337d (4 replies)

Why do you comment something without reading the article? This is a quote from someone explaining what they saw, not the reporter describing her like that.

IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 337d

I thought that it was a bit odd wording too based on the quote alone, implying that Greta was some fragile small thing everyone should protect instead of brave young woman that she is. But then I read the article and in context it makes sense, that's something I might say too in the same situation.

CannonFodder@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 336d (2 replies)

Of course. And that's the main source the reporter is using, so it's relevant.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 336d (1 reply)

What other source did you want? IDF soldiers explaining how they did nothing to her at all and she deserved every bit of it.

CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 335d

Well that would likely be even more biased. Yes, it would be good to get a statement from Israel. But just because we can't get unbiased info doesn't mean we should believe everything.

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 337d (1 reply)

22 is young, my dude. Isn't that the tragedy we're meant to learn from 2 world wars, that war is a meat grinder for the young?

CannonFodder@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 336d

Yes, wars are horrible.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 337d
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Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 336d

she is physically a small person

ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 336d (1 reply)

Your comment got -70 downvotes but this dude essentially said the same thing with majority agreeing him with +200 upvotes. Lemmy, pick a side already, sheesh.

CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 335d

Funny. I can handle downvotes! Do they even get tallied somewhere on Lenny?

JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works · 105 pts · 337d

I love her so much and this vile cruel disgusting world is going to destroy her for being one of the only people willing to stand up for what's right.

genfood@feddit.org · 67 pts · 337d

That’s disgusting

redraven@midwest.social · 30 pts · 336d

In all seriousness, the world needs to cut all military, economic, and political ties and support to Israel until they end the genocide and submit to the ICC and ICJ for war crimes and crimes against humanity prosecution. Israel needs to face consequences for every single atrocity they've committed.

kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 336d

Really speed running the geneva suggestions

Greddan@feddit.org · 16 pts · 336d
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OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 336d (2 replies)

Every headline I see about this gets more watered down

"Greta forced to use bathroom that hadn't been cleaned in 6 hours, handed towel made in Israel to dry her face"

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they were pricks to her, but I just saw three stories in a row, one that she had been beaten, one that she had be dragged by her hair, and now this one saying that her cell was dirty and she had to hold flags...

qevlarr@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 336d (1 reply)

Good for being critical. Without independent journalism over there, who can really say?

Aeao@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 336d

I also am waiting for real information. I’m very concerned and angry about this, but I don’t want to get sucked into false information.

The solid information we have is plenty horrible enough to be angry about.

festkoerper@feddit.org · 4 pts · 336d

She doesn't want to be sexualised any further than she she already is.

It is her most innate human right.

Which is to defend, instead of "discussable".

zululove@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 337d

Let’s get our 2A party sticks and some boats and go get her idfk what else to do guys lol

Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org · 1 pts · 336d

I don't understand why many of the world's governments keep walking on eggshells around this issue. I assume it's just money. It's always money or influence.

festkoerper@feddit.org · -35 pts · 337d (14 replies)
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B0rax@feddit.org · 12 pts · 337d (6 replies)

Du machst es dir ganz schön einfach. „Die anderen müssen was tun, aber ich nicht. Und jeder der etwas anderes behauptet ist ein Idiot.“

Stark.

spechter@feddit.org · 8 pts · 337d

Reflektiertester CxU/AgD-Wähler

festkoerper@feddit.org · -10 pts · 337d (4 replies)

Der Witz ist: Du machst es Dir noch einfacher: Weil Du Dir einbildest, dass dein Papierstrohalm Elon Musks JET's CO²-Austoss behindert.

B0rax@feddit.org · 4 pts · 336d (3 replies)

Tut mir leid, aber auf dieser Stammtischparolen-Ebene diskutiere ich nicht mit dir.

festkoerper@feddit.org · -5 pts · 336d (2 replies)

Also trägst Du deren Argumentation ernsthaft ? Weswegen wir im Supermarkt nur "vegane" Kost finden ?

Du nennst das Stammtischparole: Ich nenne das den Grund, weshalb Elon Musk Twitter gekauft hat:

Damit er den Account, der seinen Privatjet sachkonform und rechtlich einwandfrei dokumentiert hat abstellten konnte.

B0rax@feddit.org · 2 pts · 336d (1 reply)

Hör auf mir Worte in den Mund zu legen. Die Welt ist nicht schwarz und weiß wie du sie hinstellst.

Natürlich tragen die Superreichen die größte Schuld, aber eben auch beim beeinflussen der Menschen. Und dagegen hilft nur, mitdenken und sich wehren.

Du aber kritisierst die Menschen die aufstehen, die etwas verändern wollen. Die Menschen die sich gegen die Ölindustrie stellen, die anderen Menschen helfen wollen.

Damit stehst du in meinen Augen auf der Seite der Menschen die unsere Welt schlechter machen.

festkoerper@feddit.org · -1 pts · 336d

Du hast Recht und ich habe Frieden.

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 9 pts · 337d (1 reply)

"einfach" alle Kriege beenden

festkoerper@feddit.org · -4 pts · 337d

Da wir in einem System leben ist das tatsächlich möglich. Unglaublich: ABER wahr.

Aequitas@feddit.org · 5 pts · 337d (1 reply)
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festkoerper@feddit.org · -10 pts · 337d

Aber ich beherrsche Latein. Deswegen brauche ich keine Anglizismen. Außer ich brauche Sie.

I.d.R, berufe ich mich auf Verträge, die Menschen miteinander geschlossen haben:

zum Bleistift die Haager Landkriegskonvention, die explizit den Einsatz von Giftgasen verbietet.

Was dann doch "passiert" ist.

banause@feddit.org · 2 pts · 337d

Ah, 1 Pimmel.

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 337d (1 reply)

Passing this through DeepL results in:

My theories about Greta Thunberg are based on diesel exhaust fumes.

End all wars, nationalise arms manufacturers: 70% of climate-damaging emissions will be permanently eliminated.

Simple.

The point about Greta is that a simple person should not sell their conscience.

For me, that was the "message" about her as a person.

RidderSport@feddit.org · 3 pts · 336d

Not quite correct. The theories are written on a diesel-exhaust pipe.