The problem is serious, but also the antisemitism is only incidental. If the positions were reversed, they would be anti-Arab partisans, crying for the 'genetically-based ethnic cleansing' of Arabs. The core of the issue is that it's just team sports to them instead of the lives of millions.
Everywhere does. It's not just that actual antisemitism is on the rise, though: talking about it at all has become difficult. Israel has done an unbelievable amount of damage to Judaism worldwide by working to conflate anti-genocidal sentiments with anti-Jewish ones. Any time I see anyone being accused of antisemitism my first reaction is "no, Israel doesn't represent all Jews and they're committing fucking mass murder," which gives cover to people who really are talking about shadowy globalist conspiracies or whatever.
And talking about it with other Jews is more exhausting than anyone else, because often it turns out they're also confusing the two. Then I have to walk a tightrope between trying to help someone see their own hypocrisy and making them tune me out entirely. I've had enough of that impossible type of conversation while trying to talk down the Trump voters I know, thankyouverymuch... it makes me want to disconnect from the community entirely. Disgusting and shameful aren't strong enough words.
Have you considered that you can criticise multiple sides? That one side doing bad doesn't make another side automatically good? That the innocent are the ones who suffer at the hands of tyrants?
No use with antiyanks, unfortunately - he gets banned and makes a new account with a new name every week or so. It's his 'distinctive' style, and obsessive choice of targets and canned phrases, which make him recognizable.
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Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 307d
Wild stuff. I wonder if their attitude would change if they got kidnapped and had to live in detention for years.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 307d
If they’re in the US, they might just find out
germanichwurst@feddit.org · 2 pts · 306d
I really feel for the hostages. The worst part must be their friends outside bombing the shit out of the place "to get them back"
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 306d
Have you guys tried not carpet bombing the hostages takers? It's usually how hostage-taking work.
If bank robbers take hostages, the correct course of action isn't to bomb the bank.
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 306d
Excuse me?
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 306d
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 306d
Ok, you're one of those fake leftists.
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 306d
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 306d
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 306d
I support bombing civilians there?
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
I lean towards the Palestinian side and oppose Israel's genocide, but that doesn't mean I am going to say Hamas kidnapping random civilians is good.
You online leftists are a joke.
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 306d
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 306d
Ah yeah you don't support genocide but you don't support the only armed force defending people from genociders.
Fucking clown.
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 307d
I read that as "if they're on Band Camp".
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 307d
To be fair, we haven't heard Israel's mix tape. Maybe it slaps.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 4 pts · 307d
Turns out, it's just hours of audio of Palestinians being murdered.
I'm given to understand it's a big hit on Capitol Hill, especially, though not exclusively, amongst Republicans.
germanichwurst@feddit.org · 1 pts · 306d
goat@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 305d
isnt it more apt to say both sides can do bad?
goat@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 307d
Lemmy has a serious antisemitism problem
PugJesus@piefed.social · 8 pts · 307d
The problem is serious, but also the antisemitism is only incidental. If the positions were reversed, they would be anti-Arab partisans, crying for the 'genetically-based ethnic cleansing' of Arabs. The core of the issue is that it's just team sports to them instead of the lives of millions.
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 306d
BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 307d
Everywhere does. It's not just that actual antisemitism is on the rise, though: talking about it at all has become difficult. Israel has done an unbelievable amount of damage to Judaism worldwide by working to conflate anti-genocidal sentiments with anti-Jewish ones. Any time I see anyone being accused of antisemitism my first reaction is "no, Israel doesn't represent all Jews and they're committing fucking mass murder," which gives cover to people who really are talking about shadowy globalist conspiracies or whatever.
And talking about it with other Jews is more exhausting than anyone else, because often it turns out they're also confusing the two. Then I have to walk a tightrope between trying to help someone see their own hypocrisy and making them tune me out entirely. I've had enough of that impossible type of conversation while trying to talk down the Trump voters I know, thankyouverymuch... it makes me want to disconnect from the community entirely. Disgusting and shameful aren't strong enough words.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 307d
So to your mind, criticism of Israel equates to antisemitism?
goat@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 307d
no
I've criticised israel a great deal
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 306d
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH you're straight up lying
goat@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 306d
I like it when you link this antiyanks because it includes me criticising israel :)
germanichwurst@feddit.org · -1 pts · 306d
No you do not. Why are you lying? You know everybody can follow the link and see for themselves
goat@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 305d
Have you considered that you can criticise multiple sides? That one side doing bad doesn't make another side automatically good? That the innocent are the ones who suffer at the hands of tyrants?
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 306d
He's a propagandist
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 306d
I guess there’s at least 4 others like him here
PugJesus@piefed.social · 1 pts · 306d
Antiyanks is a known troll
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 306d
I guess I could start trying to remember usernames
petrescatraian@libranet.de · 3 pts · 305d
If only there was something like RES for Lemmy/the Fediverse...
It had this exact functionality. Add a label to a user, and it will be displayed everywhere on the website for you to know...
PugJesus@piefed.social · 3 pts · 306d
No use with antiyanks, unfortunately - he gets banned and makes a new account with a new name every week or so. It's his 'distinctive' style, and obsessive choice of targets and canned phrases, which make him recognizable.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 306d
Well, good for him for putting his energy into effecting real change in the world 😐
AlmostDead@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 306d
This place becomes a zionist club lmao.