cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37367499
This is building consent for a US war on Venezuela.
Nobel war prize more like, considering the people they award this to.
Maria Machado dedicates her Nobel "Peace" prize to Donald Trump.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37367499
This is building consent for a US war on Venezuela.
Nobel war prize more like, considering the people they award this to.
74 Comments
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 55 pts · 322d
guy@piefed.social · 14 pts · 322d
Isn't that the reason she's trying to reestablish democracy in Venezuela, to get rid of an authoritarian leader she knows can't be satisfied?
mrdown@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 322d
A fake democracy where she will let the usa define the policies and profiting from venezuela oil
guy@piefed.social · -15 pts · 322d
Sure mate
njm1314@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 322d
Woof. Imagine having faith in the Trump regime.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 322d
Just look at the failure of the arab spring
guy@piefed.social · -5 pts · 322d
She can hardly be blamed for that can she?
mrdown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 322d
The parallel can be drawn since the USA and other western countries was involved in the post Arab spring. France fought to keep it's neo colonial influence in Tunisia. In Egypt , the USA was involved in taking down Morsi and put Sisi instead who is serving the USA and Israel interests .
She is be the same type of traitor. She doesn't hide her support for Trump and supporting military intervention in Venezuela. Do you really believe the USA help any country for charity? It doesn't matter how harder it could be but Venezuelans should remove Maduro by themselves with no foreign interference
guy@piefed.social · -2 pts · 322d
They tried that didn't they?
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 5 pts · 322d
guy@piefed.social · 15 pts · 322d
No, I think she's trying to flatter Trump to make sure the US still supports a democratic transition in Venezuela. Trump doesn't need to be goaded into not liking Maduro, even if they're both authoritarian lovers
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 322d
This is also the reward he apparently coveted most. Frankly she might be doing this just not to be directly targeted by him negatively.
I have no idea, but i wouldn't want to be the person who beat Trump for this award, the dude is not afraid to kill civilians in cold blood.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 322d
He only coveted the award because Obama won one. Nothing more to the story. After Obama handed him his ass at the White House Corespondent's Dinner, it was game on.
If you haven't seen that, have a quick look at history being made. Only reason Trump ran.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 5 pts · 322d
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 322d
Respect.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 322d
Trump likes communists and socialists who flatter his ego just fine, just look at his boy trip to N. Korea. Maduro's problems are 1: he didn't do that and 2: Trump is gagging to invade someone
Jhex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
have you seen how Murica "supports democratic transitions" around the world?? you can't possibly be this naive
guy@piefed.social · 0 pts · 321d
I'm not Maria Machado
Jhex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
yet you have no issues pretending to justify her behaviour?
guy@piefed.social · -1 pts · 321d
I answered a question with what I think she does when she's tweeting??
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 1 pts · 322d
shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 322d
Was transactional, and you could bet on how he would act. Now grandpa does as he's told. Not being funny. His dementia has been sliding off the cliff since '21 or '22, he's very near free-fall.
Look at the general's meeting and his UN address. He's fucking gone.
At this point I'm surprised his handlers let him speak in public. How long can they sustain that and what comes next?
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 322d
That have nothing to do with trump omg the US is drolling on venezuala's oil for the last 3 decades.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 322d
Perhaps she's not interested in democracy beyond using it as a vehicle to get herself in the driver's seat.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
bingo
finitebanjo@piefed.world · -4 pts · 322d
njm1314@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 322d
Hell the only thing I know about her is that she's flattering a fascist dictator and and seems to be hinting around asking said fascist dictator to invade her country. Sounds pretty fucking abysmal to me.
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 322d
Oh that's not the only thing:
The international sanctions lead to widespread hunger in her country. She's evil.
Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 322d
He's getting played, like every other deal he ever makes.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 322d
Payed*
finitebanjo@piefed.world · -2 pts · 322d
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 322d
The woman supported sanction that lead to widespread hunger in her own country
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/venezuela-un-expert-calls-human-rights-not-charity-end-hunger-and
Hitler before the popular front innit? Anticommunists always end up supporting the weirdest people lmao
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 3 pts · 321d
njm1314@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 322d
Oh it's so so could be worse.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 0 pts · 322d
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 322d
Let me guess, the "real democracy" will sell the oil industry to the USA.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 322d
*retard you mean
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 321d
The irrepairable brain damage in a simpleton starts with: First, the CIA are part of team "good guys". Next the simpleton does not notice the 100% corelation between simpleton understood democratic leaders and moderate opposition parties forming pro CIA policies, and simpleton understanding of autocratic leaders with extremist parties who oppose CIA policies.
Selling PVDSA to Chevron is only a good idea for someone who could have the power to broker the deal and get a nice bribe to get Chevron the best deal possible instead of the people of Venezeula getting the best deal possible. Chevron will simply have a supremacist advantage in bribery power.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 1 pts · 321d
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 321d
Just because the CIA tells you an election is rigged, because and only because they lost at rigging it, doesn't actually mean that there is no democracy. Similar to Trump 2020 complaints. Narco terrorists that campaign on gifting PVDSA to the US is not that much of a shock. The corrupt CIA outcome being the only democratic outcome is how every NATO country operates.
Would democracy in the US be stronger if Trump had awaited all of his trials in military prison, or had fallen out a window? If Christozionist establishment didn't make Charlie Kirk a Protestant saint? Establishment definitely exterminates speech they don't like, and more of that happens in US than elsewhere. Since the CIA does not love Venezuelans, exterminating CIA traitor speech is more democratic than not doing so.
Repeating the first step, The CIA/US empire are not on the "good guys team". Everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie, but especially commentary on any election results they don't like. You cannot proceed to enlightenment without getting past the first step.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 2 pts · 321d
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 321d
Traitorous CIA stooges getting arrested for their obvious treason being complained about by CIA and their NGOs doesn't make exterminating traitorous scum "undemocratic". During 2020 DNC administration, continuing to act as controlled opposition to GOP instead of exterminating Trump, 2016 administration GOP criminals, Jan 6th tourists, even after SCOTUS gave Biden (sitting president) the power to so, has made the US less democratic today than 1930s Germany.
The US is the most corrupt country in history. A common exaggeration is that Trump is a Putin/FSB agent. It's an exaggeration because Zionaziism media and electoral financing control provides total control over US including DNC control to just lose if that is best for Israel. But Neocon/CIA war on Russia is stupid, and Trump resisting that gets plenty of establishment push back.
For some reason, CIA nobel committee did not consider Putin for peace prize. Russian political establishment would consider him only viable candidate. If nobel committee was more fascist than CIA controlled, they might have given Trump the peace prize in 2020 for his "hard work on election accountability". What would be proof of Trump is a traitor to America is saying "Russia, if you're listening, please nuke DC so that we can be liberated from DNC tyranny"
This exactly what this demonic pig fucking CIA sycophantic committee did this year. The CIA vision for world peace is not a humanist objective reality vision.
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 322d
Of course she does. You always have shit takes.
The only reason she's there is because she want to privatize the petrol industry. Americans are thirty for oil, episode 29
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 322d
The USA doesn't determine who gets the Nobel prize
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 322d
The USA are the one imposing their diplomatic narrative. This is a clearly a political nomination. She supported the sanctions that literally starved her own country. She's a piece of shit.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/venezuela-un-expert-calls-human-rights-not-charity-end-hunger-and
https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/for-many-families-every-meal-is-a-struggle-in-venezuelas-economic-crisis/
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 322d
She might be shitty but the narrative that she was chosen because ofAmerican interests makes no sense when Americans do not choose who gets the award.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 322d
I swear I seen that moron around
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 322d
Imagine appealing to one dictator, in the hopes that they can help you get rid of another? It doesn't get much stupider than this. I guess that Nobel Prize doesn't apply to regime change requests?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 21 pts · 322d
That phrasing sounds like they're against freedom.
porksnort@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 321d
They are! Freedom needs a good conquerin’ now and then
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 21 pts · 322d
Nothing says Peace Prize like Conquering Freedom in dedication to Donald Trump.
I was wondering if the Conquering Freedom bit was a poor translation earlier, guess we have an answer.
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 322d
That's the only reason she won. Americans want their oil
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 322d
The USA does not determine who wins the Nobel prizes.
KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works · -15 pts · 322d
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH you really think that?
The USA are the one imposing their diplomatic narrative.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 322d
Doyou have any idea how the award recipient is chosen?
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 321d
Are you seriously suggesting that Noble Peace awards are beyond influence and corruption.
The criticism of the process of choosing candidates is widely regarded because it is obscured and otherwise secret in nature.
Not to mention sometimes they fuck up. It is may not even be their fault, as they can't control a person's actions before of after the prize is given.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 321d
Prove it then. Offer up the material proof of the USA directly determining a winner or maybe consider that we do know who chooses the winners and it is former winners. The US government isnt going to have much sway.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 321d
Prove what. That they can be corrupt and make bad picks.
The US could or could not have sway. I am not suggesting they do, just saying it could be done.
I believe former winners nominate people, the actual decisions are made by a five member Norwegian Nobel Committee.
guy@piefed.social · 1 pts · 321d
But it is such a useless statement? Everything could be influenced by something or someone.
KatManDoo obviously sees the peace price committee as a puppet show played by the US. This is obviously not the case and stating 'but they could add pressure, theoretically, maybe, possibly' is not adding anything else but realism conspiracies
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 319d
I literally told you what you need to be anle to prove your claim. You need material evidence of this happening in the past.
Atomic@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 321d
That is an impressive amount of ass kissing. Well done.
Boozilla@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 321d
Further proof that the NPP is bullshit. Like the one they gave to Obama.
ook@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 322d
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 321d
...what the hell is going on...?
Mvlad88@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 322d
Tldr: orange man, you cool, wanna restart Operation Condor?
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 321d
I'm getting vibes now that she's s cia plsnt like the last guy
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 321d
🤮
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 321d
GAG
courval@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 322d
And she's gone..
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 322d
I think one of the reasons she was chosen was to protect her from murder or imprisonment. If something bad happens to her it will make the Maduro regime look terrible.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 321d
cma man cma.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 321d
To be honest, I wish there would be a Nobel prize of war.
What would it take for us to make one? Fend off an alien invasion?
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 321d
who is this dumb b?