cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/50798037
Canada has had 100 per cent tariffs on all EVs imported from China since last October
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/50798037
Canada has had 100 per cent tariffs on all EVs imported from China since last October
33 Comments
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca · 58 pts · 307d
Seems like a no-brainer. Canada doesn't have an EV production to speak of. I believe it was originally done to support the U.S. EV industry, but do we really need to be doing that?
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 307d
Oh, was it? If that was the only justification… yeah. Seems like a straightforward play.
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 307d
Idk, US or US industry has a choke hold on politicians. I feel our politicians has no political will to negotiate against the US.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 4 pts · 307d
Maybe the real "elbows up" was the useless neolibs we made along the way.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 307d
made sense since us has 100% tariffs on chinese EVs , to prop up the overpriced US evs.
Bunbury@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 307d
It might have been the only official justification. However I suspect that there’s unofficial ones, like “we are worried it’ll come with spyware that directly reports everything to China” or “if we do this we might becoming mainly dependent on Chinese cars, which then means China can pull them out from under us, maybe disable them remotely, etc”.
Depends on how much they thought this through and how much they trust China now and in the next few decades.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 307d
cant be any worst than the spyware for the US govt.
Bunbury@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 307d
Well ideally I suspect people would just want a product without the spyware.
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 307d
I see your point, however, China is consistent, and it is not nearly so imperialistic as the United States. I'm not sure which one I trust less.
Bunbury@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 306d
To me this is a difference between a chaotic type of untrustworthiness and a more stable type of untrustworthiness. Wouldn’t want to pick either if it can be avoided.
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 307d
Sounds like a win-win?
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 307d
I'm fine with that as long as ZERO personal info is transmitted to China.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 307d
Yeah.... about that
Mihies@programming.dev · 6 pts · 307d
I can't understand why there is no law against that - at least give users a choice. This concern is valid for all cars, not only EVs and not only Chinese.
reddig33@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 307d
But sending your money to China is just fine?
mrdown@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 307d
As fine as other countries buying from the United State who destroyed multiple countries since the end of world war 2
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 307d
Not really, which is why you should buy used
nutpantz@feddit.online · 14 pts · 307d
Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 307d
China is as good of a friend to Canada as the USA. Both are not trustworthy.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 307d
Rocking the boat with trump is only asking for more problems. I don't think we should give in to their stupid demands, but we also shouldn't be purposely provocative.
We tried getting China to build their EVs here and they wouldn't agree. They would only do it if they were to be staffed by Chinese nationals that stayed in the facility - ie not providing any Canadian jobs.
On top of this, China wants our canola - they collect tariffs, but that just goes around in a circle in their communist system, it doesn't stop them buying our stuff.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 307d
Reasonable
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 307d
As long as they are safety rated for here i guess it's alright.
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 307d
They export them in droves to Europe, and I'd be very surprised if there's a single thing on a vehicle which isn't regulated stricter in Europe than in North America. Maybe emissions in California? Not much emissions from an EV, though.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 307d
Yuppers so that part would be fine. I'm not excited about more of my data being sold to another country/company though....
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 9 pts · 307d
Got bad news for you if you think any modern car isn't already doing that. :(
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 307d
Oh I know they are, another reason to keep my older vehicle running
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 307d
You think American cars aren’t doing that?
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 307d
No, that's why I said another country/company
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 307d
They sell them in EU, that have higher standards than us.
Mihies@programming.dev · 1 pts · 307d
Even though EU has substantial tariffs on them. If we lowered the tariffs or eliminate them, we'd have dirty cheap cars and no more domestic car industry over night.
Bo7a@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 307d
I'm asking this in honest curiosity. Do we have a domestic car industry anymore? Does a Can-Am Spyder count? I might just be tired this morning, but I can't think of a single Canadian car manufacturer of any volume right now.
Mihies@programming.dev · 3 pts · 307d
Ah, sorry, I was referring to the EU, not Canada.
Bo7a@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 307d
I probably should have noticed that. I'll chalk it up to an early Sunday brain.
frog_meister@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 307d
Arancello@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 307d
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