And less than 24 hours after Donald announced this “everlasting peace”, Palestinians were still being killed in Gaza, aid trucks stopped from going into Gaza and a row broke out about the failure of Hamas to return the bodies of dead Israeli hostages.
All of these grim, and sadly all too predictable factors, threaten to topple the whole ceasefire process.
Palestinian health officials reported that seven people inspecting their homes in east Gazawere killed by Israeli drones, violating the fragile ceasefire.
The Israeli military denied this, telling The Independent that the individuals had passed through a “yellow line” to which they had withdrawn. Israeli journalists, however, suggest that the military has invisible lines that Palestinians unknowingly cross.
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gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 115 pts · 338d
Why are serious journalists even calling this a cease-fire anymore? Just because Israel says it is? Even though they keep opening fire on people?
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 338d
to get it written down that they did something 'positive' to try and manipulate history. that's it... it's lying to the future humans, or attempts at it.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 338d
Israel needs to force the opinion to sway their way or they would be the worst country since Hitler took over Germany. Horrible historical read if it hasn’t even been 100 years and the next Hitler is Jewish.
Edit: Just because it’s a free run cage doesnt mean its any better.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 338d
It was more a pause to reload than a ceasefire. And the genocide continues.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 338d
You didn't read? It was and I quote "historic" what Trump did! That's what almost all news are saying, isn't it?
Like nothing was staged to look like Trump stoped an another war.
What's next for him, the Russia-Ukraine war? But how he will do it?
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 338d
Wait until Zelenskyy wins with European backing, then claim credit while shit-talking the actual participants. I mean, come on, he's a fiddle with one string, and on that, he only knows how to play one tired tune.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 337d
He's deffo a fiddler, a kiddie fiddler.
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 338d
Because they work for Israel and are part of the propaganda apparatus.
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 57 pts · 338d
Show me a ceasefire agreement during this conflict which Israel has not immediately and blatantly disregarded?
Israel is the biggest perpetrator of terrorism in the world. Genocidal freaks with far higher civilian kill rates than any other conflict. They aren’t going to stop this ethnic cleansing and land grab willingly, because they are demented terrorists.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 338d
They're playing Pokemon: Genocide Edition
Gotta kill em all.
klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe · 33 pts · 338d
Yawn. Called it. And a big fuck you to the people who called me a doomer. Nah nah nah
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 338d
Some people were stupid enough to think this was genuine? Netanyahu and his ilk were laying the groundwork to violate the agreement nearly immediately.
RidderSport@feddit.org · 8 pts · 337d
Half the world leaders were like: Oh this changes everything, thank you Trump - made me want to smash my head into the nearest wall
bradorsomething@ttrpg.network · 5 pts · 338d
I find it very surprising a non-shill or bot really thought “this time is different.”
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 338d
Israel 100% knew that Hamas couldn't return all the dead hostages that they "accidentally" killed when they indiscriminately carpet bombed everything. Where they would even store the bodies, in the non-existent non-refrigerated morgues? How they could even retrieve the dead bodies if it's under tons of rubble and the iof kills everyone on sight?
So now they're playing the card "they're not returning the dead hostages!!!!11!" and then can restart the final solution genocide
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 337d
What is astounding is how much support Israel is getting from the mainstream media right now to push their narrative.
Media is framing it as if a few dead Israeli bodies are a valid excuse to starve 2 million Palestinians
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 337d
The media is controlled by the same evils. Stop expecting more from them. It’s 2025 and being “astounded” by any of this shit should not be the reaction.
It’s appalling, but it’s as predictable as the rising sun.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 338d
This was just a publicity stunt because the entire world is enraged at Netanyahu and Trumpler and they were starting to get scared. Zionists have been very clear about their “final solution” nothing has changed.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 22 pts · 338d
whattttttt
laranis@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 338d
Anyone who didn't see this as the pre-Nobel publicity stunt it was is an absolute nut sack of a human being.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 338d
Who could have possibly foreseen this....
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 338d
Israel does not have a right to exist.
teft@piefed.social · 11 pts · 338d
Are you telling me that the turnip in chief didn’t end a forever war that’s been raging for thousands of years? Quelle surprise!
shane@feddit.nl · 18 pts · 338d
The Israeli/Palestinean issue isn't even 100 years old, although your point is still valid!
teft@piefed.social · -2 pts · 338d
I meant more the jewish peoples fighting the muslim peoples which to be fair is only like 1500 years old not a few thousand but I'm always a bit hyperbolic when I wake up.
shane@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 338d
I mean, there wasn't a Jewish state for hundreds of years before Islam was founded, so I don't think it is really comparable.
Jews were alternately accepted or oppressed (up to and including torture and what we now call genocide) basically forever, basically everywhere. But the idea that Jews and Muslims have been at each other's throats for thousands of years is not really true, IMHO.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 338d
Through the Middle Ages, Muslims discriminated against Jews (as they did against all non-Muslim monotheists). That meant they paid higher taxes but were exempt from military service (to really get fucked with under Muslim rule, try being polytheistic or an atheist). In that same era, Christians alternated between welcoming Jews (with various restrictions) and murdering them.
On the other hand, there was a centuries-long series of conflicts between Christians and Muslims. That started with the collapse of the rotten edifice that was the Byzentine Empire, and continued with an extended period of Europe tring to overcome its factionalism in order to contain the Ottomans.
faxed@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 337d
The tax on non Muslims (jizyah) was in a way beneficial to creating a heterogenous environment. Anybody who tried to expel members of different faiths suffered an immediate loss of income and soon saw the err of their ways. And the more prosperous non-muslims are, the more tax they can pay, so it also gives a reason to take special care of them and help them to prosper.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 337d
In many western country Imigrants pays for things like education
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 337d
Religion is a fucking cancer
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 338d
People fighting over which God is better is a tale as old as time.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 337d
Muslims and jews has the same god. You sound really ignorant
faxed@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 337d
I don't think it was really such a big deal back then beyond your kind of baseline drama and conflict humans always get up to. But not much special aminosity between these two groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
Christians tend towards higher than average belligerence but don't over generalize from them.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 337d
Why are you putting muslims, arabs and palestinians in the same bag? Palestinians has nothing to do with a conflict between muslims and jews a thousand years ago . There was always conflicts between groups of people living close to each other. Also why don't you mention the periods where there was no conflicts between muslims, christians and jews? Or something like the arab countries siding with the allies against Nazi germany?
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 338d
Imagine being dumb enough to think some hostages being released means a much larger conflict is magically over.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 337d
People who know even a little bit of history, not much, just a little bit, knew this was doomed to failure. Like most of Trump's accomplishments (triumphs?) this is more about style than substance.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 337d
His peace has the same quality as all his other "products": The tariffs that should save American workers' jobs, his ruthless efforts to get prices for eggs down, etc, etc...
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 338d
As long as it depends on the will of Israel alone, there won't be any safeguards against that. Only the presence of some third party, e.g. peacemaker troops from Europe, would prevent the hostilities. Just someone, anyone they would be afraid to outright bomb and, probably, one that can return fire if needed.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 337d
Europe which his major countries still side with the settler colonial power? Just look at the peacekeeper in lebanon they got attacked by both Israel and Hizbollah
HubertManne@piefed.social · 6 pts · 338d
Nah its all good. He just needs to keep repeating how it worked and its all great despite what is obviously happening in front of our faces. Just like ice N junk.
pticrix@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 338d
Another low-quality, gilded thing from Trump World.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 338d
Peace only for the comfortable Kahanists, more suffering for those still suffering.
What a fucking contrast. There will be no truly peaceful settlement of the region as long as the extremists are breathing and plotting.
neuromorph@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 337d
and now he will say it was Biden's deal all along!
maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d
DUH! That war is 80 years old. He thinks it’s been going on for only 2 years? He wants to blame 80 years of fighting on Biden. that orange bastard didn’t do anything revolutionary.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 338d
I think pretty much all cease fires are pretty rocky at first, even ones that go on to be successful. People were killing each other for a reason - it's hard to just turn that off. It remains to be seen whether this will be successful or not, it's up to the leadership.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 15 pts · 338d
It's not; it happens all the time. Israel simply doesn't want to because they never had any intention of honoring the "ceasefire" in the first place, just like they never honored any other ceasefire they've signed with a weaker force.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 338d
It is. Ceasefires are violated all the time.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 337d
Ceasefires in Palestine are violated all of the time by Israel.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 338d
Yeah, it's really hard for me to just not kill someone. Urrrrgh, so hard.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 338d
What's hard is trusting that the person across the way with a gun is NOT going to shoot you even though they would have 10 minutes ago.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 337d
It's hard for a settler colonial power to accept stop killing the people it occupies