They like to claim that they are. I wonder if that’s why they’re so opposed to LGBTQ people. When we say “I am X” we mean it, but when these types of “democracy lovers” say “I am/support X” it’s a facade.
Maybe they’re so used to that kind of claim being a lie, that they project that on everyone else.
I'm pro LGBT+, I'm pro Ukraine, pro democracy and I don't vote in the american elections (shocker, I'm not american). I wonder where you got your idea from.
There were some people screaming "gEnOcIdE" (yes, it takes a 'c') if you wasn't pro their side but that does not make me anything. So bizarre calling some random person on the internet "pro genicide" without further explanation. I mean why?
You're against the unjustifiable invasion of Ukraine that uses genocidal tactics, thus you are against the unjustifiable invasion of Palestine with the goal of genocide, especially the West Bank which explicitly opposes Hamas?
As a general rule I don't engage in definition nitpicking arguments because they're almost universally fartsniffing contests between people with too high opinions of themselves. That's why Jordan Peterson does it all the time. There's a lot of cool information to be gleaned from etymology and linguistics, unfortunately most people only engage with the topic to use as a shiv for some other political point they want to make but are too insecure to directly engage with.
You clearly know what meaning was intended to be conveyed by the word. So if you know what people mean when they say something, why pretend like you don't? It's dishonest.
Those have done ok locally, but there are reasons why such movements haven't aquired the importance or the results of other socialist experiments, e.g no rapid industrialization. I hope they never have to face open threats of genocide and extermination by capitalist armies as the Bolsheviks or the North Koreans did.
I trust nothing and no one anymore but tbh, I assume this is a completely unedited shot of JP, simply because of how clearly damaged and unhinged he has publically and enthusiatically shown himself to be for literal years now.
Petersen has a significant emotional disorder and seems to never be able to react appropriately. I suspect his addiction, coma and subsequent damages have really impacted his ability to think.
30% profit shared distributed evenly to every worker on payroll by nr of hours worked and 40% worker elected representation on the board. Goal is still profit, everyone benefits, everyone gets a say in how it's governed and there's still clear incentive to start a company and invest in them.
I would be more than happy to have those fruits of labor be redistributed, via Universal Basic Income. Then at least my basic needs getting met is not tied to working a specific job.
I’m in favor of other cool things too though like more public housing rental units and Universal Healthcare as well. Even having college be free for everyone would be a net gain for society as a whole.
I know some organizations are run co-op style, where the workers are the owners, so it’s currently something viable.
I would believe that to see broader change like that at a wider level would require some protections though.
I feel that UBI would be an easier first sell, since it doesn’t directly shake up existing systems for organizations. If you’re interested in starting a co-op of your own though there are some helpful resources out there still.
I’m kinda surprised most coffee shops are not 100% co-ops tbh. If they were, it would help the workers get around the shady practices of big companies like Starbucks that shutdown shops attempting to unionize.
yea thats him crying,and breaking down from an interview. i believe its from this interview, type " Jordan Peterson Breaks Down During Interview " on YOUTUBE.
hes very emotionally unstable from his benzo and coma days.
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HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 79 pts · 291d
They're not fans of democracy though...
Dojan@pawb.social · 47 pts · 291d
They like to claim that they are. I wonder if that’s why they’re so opposed to LGBTQ people. When we say “I am X” we mean it, but when these types of “democracy lovers” say “I am/support X” it’s a facade.
Maybe they’re so used to that kind of claim being a lie, that they project that on everyone else.
Valmond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
KindaKool@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 291d
Valmond@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
You're not kindacool.
I just explained why people lie like Leon talks about. No denying anyons sexuality. Explaining why people are pos. 🤷🏻♀️
Edit: BTW you will find exactly 0 posts where I "deny soneones sexuality" in my entire post history, and there is a reason for that.
KindaKool@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 291d
Valmond@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
I'm pro LGBT+, I'm pro Ukraine, pro democracy and I don't vote in the american elections (shocker, I'm not american). I wonder where you got your idea from.
There were some people screaming "gEnOcIdE" (yes, it takes a 'c') if you wasn't pro their side but that does not make me anything. So bizarre calling some random person on the internet "pro genicide" without further explanation. I mean why?
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 291d
You're against the unjustifiable invasion of Ukraine that uses genocidal tactics, thus you are against the unjustifiable invasion of Palestine with the goal of genocide, especially the West Bank which explicitly opposes Hamas?
MrMobius@sh.itjust.works · 49 pts · 291d
More leftists, less tankies
abbotsbury@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 291d
Rothe@piefed.social · 8 pts · 290d
Definitely not true for lemmy.
MrMobius@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 290d
Not a lot of them, but they're really loud and prolific in their posting
hayvan@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 290d
Propaganda 101.
Transform2942@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 291d
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · -8 pts · 291d
lemmy.ml? Opinion discarded.
Transform2942@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 291d
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · -8 pts · 291d
Another opinion from a lemmy.ml user, opinion discarded.
Transform2942@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 291d
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 291d
I guess we should rep up and coming empires instead?
Transform2942@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 291d
Exciting, please name one
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 290d
hayvan@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 290d
Wow what a loser position to take.
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 290d
Fuck China, long live Taiwan.
superniceperson@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 290d
Fuck Canada, Long live Alberta.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 290d
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 290d
Yeah, but they're also so authoritarian they end up creating a police state that is not too different from a fascist one.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 290d
superniceperson@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 290d
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 2 pts · 290d
Wrong, and may you never see the real difference
superniceperson@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 290d
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 290d
Truly whenever a government says things like "you can't have child brides or slaves" it is authoritarianism, big think
superniceperson@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 290d
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 290d
ok
bear@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 290d
Me when I'm up against Jordan Peterson in a Pretending To Not Understand Words Contest
superniceperson@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 290d
bear@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 290d
As a general rule I don't engage in definition nitpicking arguments because they're almost universally fartsniffing contests between people with too high opinions of themselves. That's why Jordan Peterson does it all the time. There's a lot of cool information to be gleaned from etymology and linguistics, unfortunately most people only engage with the topic to use as a shiv for some other political point they want to make but are too insecure to directly engage with.
You clearly know what meaning was intended to be conveyed by the word. So if you know what people mean when they say something, why pretend like you don't? It's dishonest.
superniceperson@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 290d
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 290d
More Allendes, fewer Fidels?
Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 290d
I'd rather have more Malatesta, Zapata and Ocallan.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 290d
Those have done ok locally, but there are reasons why such movements haven't aquired the importance or the results of other socialist experiments, e.g no rapid industrialization. I hope they never have to face open threats of genocide and extermination by capitalist armies as the Bolsheviks or the North Koreans did.
Jimbo@pawb.social · 47 pts · 291d
For a second I misread the title and thought it said "this place needs leftist nudes".
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 291d
Nah, this isn't the right place for that.
a certain horny chat tho...
msage@programming.dev · 10 pts · 291d
Oh my god! Where?
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 290d
^its^ ^in^ ^the^ ^matrix^ ^space^ ^linked^ ^in^ ^the^ ^pinned^ ^post^
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 291d
I'm uncomfortable about advertising it directly, but let's just say it's related to this comm.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 291d
I mean, what place doesn't? 🤷
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 291d
Why did I read this to the tune of our house?
FloatingAlong@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 291d
I trust nothing and no one anymore but tbh, I assume this is a completely unedited shot of JP, simply because of how clearly damaged and unhinged he has publically and enthusiatically shown himself to be for literal years now.
That said, come on, that can't be real. Right?
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu · 15 pts · 290d
It's edited. Original:
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 290d
it is unedited, if you type Jordan Peterson Breaks Down During Interview on youtube he starts getting red and bawling in the video.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 291d
Jack Posobiec, Jordan Peterson, or Jaundice Pwens?
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 290d
Petersen has a significant emotional disorder and seems to never be able to react appropriately. I suspect his addiction, coma and subsequent damages have really impacted his ability to think.
autumn64@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 291d
We love anarchist communism
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 290d
I'm not sure I can 'love' an abstract organizational principle, but I do prefer it to other things.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 290d
Overshoot2648@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 290d
I love Mutualism
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 282d
I WANT TO FUCKING SUPPORT THOSE AROUND ME, SO THEY WANT TO AND ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT ME
olafurp@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 291d
30% profit shared distributed evenly to every worker on payroll by nr of hours worked and 40% worker elected representation on the board. Goal is still profit, everyone benefits, everyone gets a say in how it's governed and there's still clear incentive to start a company and invest in them.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 290d
Why go for crumbs and not for direct worker ownership for starters?
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 290d
Im a democracy lover and all for it. With a council though not a one person at the top
superniceperson@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 290d
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 290d
based
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 291d
yesyes i want this democracy!
mauubunzie_Kittyroll69420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 291d
Slayyyyy
Viva la Quince Brigada Rúmbala, rúmbala, rúmbala, Viva la Quince Brigada, Rúmbala, rúmbala, rúm-ba-la.
Que se ha cubierta de gloria, Ay Mañuela, ay Mañuela! Que se ha cubierta de gloria, Ay Mañuela, ay Mañuela!
Luchamos contra los Moros, Rúmbala, rúmbala, rúm-ba-la, Luchamos contra los Moros, Rúmbala, rúmbala, rúm-ba-la.
Mercenarios y fascistas, Ay Mañuela, ay Mañuela! Mercenarios y fascistas, Ay Mañuela, ay Mañuela!
Solo es nuestro deseo, Rúmbala, rúmbala, rúm-ba-la, Solo es nuestro deseo, Rúmbala, rúmbala, rúm-ba-la.
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 290d
I hope this doesn't end up in the same way.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 290d
Market socialism by beloved
frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 290d
I would be more than happy to have those fruits of labor be redistributed, via Universal Basic Income. Then at least my basic needs getting met is not tied to working a specific job.
I’m in favor of other cool things too though like more public housing rental units and Universal Healthcare as well. Even having college be free for everyone would be a net gain for society as a whole.
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 290d
¿por qué no los dos?
frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 289d
I know some organizations are run co-op style, where the workers are the owners, so it’s currently something viable.
I would believe that to see broader change like that at a wider level would require some protections though.
I feel that UBI would be an easier first sell, since it doesn’t directly shake up existing systems for organizations. If you’re interested in starting a co-op of your own though there are some helpful resources out there still.
I’m kinda surprised most coffee shops are not 100% co-ops tbh. If they were, it would help the workers get around the shady practices of big companies like Starbucks that shutdown shops attempting to unionize.
cnlwhs@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 288d
addictedtosongtitles@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 286d
Whatcha got there?
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
What’s this meme source?
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 291d
not 100% sure. maybe Jordan Peterson?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 290d
yea thats him crying,and breaking down from an interview. i believe its from this interview, type " Jordan Peterson Breaks Down During Interview " on YOUTUBE.
hes very emotionally unstable from his benzo and coma days.
Rothe@piefed.social · 1 pts · 290d
And also because he is an insufferable narcissistic manchild.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 290d
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 282d
we stan syndicalism