More rights to others, gives me more rights to be different than I am. More rights to transpeople mean, I can more freely feel out what my relationship with my gender is and live it out more freely. More rights to immigrants means more "rights" to befriend, love, marry and live with one of those immigrants.
The "other" is me. The "other" is you. The "other" is us. That is why there is no other, just us.
Fixed it for you. While they certainly have more than their fair share of absolute dunces too, they don't believe in nonsensical things because of a lack of intelligence.
Most of them have been subjected to literally the same kind of programming that (other) cults use to ensure obedience and coherence for their entire lives, and then turned up to 11 for the past decade or so.
It's not about being stupid. It's about being successfully duped.
Disclaimer: I'm not pointing this out to absolve them from the consequences of their words and actions.
I'm pointing it out because you can't defeat indoctrination by just assuming that the cult members are just morons who can't know better or ignorant people who haven't been told the objective truth.
That's missing a crucial difference between ignorance and brainwashing that I neglected to mention at first but have added to my comment now:
Like with any cult, there's different levels of susceptibility to and understanding of objective reality.
While some are indeed just bad people looking for a justification for their bigotry, others are otherwise decent people whose minds have been so warped by the brain washing that they're incapable of accepting evidence contrary to the core "truths" without first being deprogrammed.
For an example from real life, my partner grew up a Jehovah's Witness. Until a couple decades ago, that cult and the conservative politics that go hand in hand with it was her "truth".
It was only with enormous effort of her own and the support from her then-husband that she managed to break free of the cult.
Even then, she went through hardcore Catholicism and other mental, spiritual, and political "halfway houses" before becoming the left wing atheist I know and love so damn much today.
18 Comments
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 331d
what about my right to oppress others, huh? checkmate, libtards 😂
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 331d
He makes a point
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 331d
we can make points too
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 16 pts · 331d
"To the privileged, equality feels like oppression"
Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com · 10 pts · 331d
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 331d
That's a great and very true quote! Gonna save it to my notes app for later use, thanks 🙂
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 331d
But if my boot not on your face, how I cope with rich boot on my face? :(
ignotum@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 331d
Easy, convince yourself that having a boot on your face is good, start kissing the boot, have you said thank you to the boot even once?
lightnegative@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 331d
It does if the rights are reduced to make everyone equal as opposed to increased
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 331d
i want to call it dark humour, but we are really on a way for it to be dark reality.,..
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 331d
More rights to others, gives me more rights to be different than I am. More rights to transpeople mean, I can more freely feel out what my relationship with my gender is and live it out more freely. More rights to immigrants means more "rights" to befriend, love, marry and live with one of those immigrants.
The "other" is me. The "other" is you. The "other" is us. That is why there is no other, just us.
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 331d
I'm waking up and it was hard to understand who were the "OTHER DDES"
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writingwritten "does" for those like me)xxd@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 331d
I was even more confused with the apostrophe, thinking it said "OTHER DDE'S". I was starting to doubt my english.
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
Because they name Rights what are actually Privileges. And when they realise, well they don't want less privilege either, no humility there
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 331d
Yeah, but conservatives are stupid
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 331d
Fixed it for you. While they certainly have more than their fair share of absolute dunces too, they don't believe in nonsensical things because of a lack of intelligence.
Most of them have been subjected to literally the same kind of programming that (other) cults use to ensure obedience and coherence for their entire lives, and then turned up to 11 for the past decade or so.
It's not about being stupid. It's about being successfully duped.
Disclaimer: I'm not pointing this out to absolve them from the consequences of their words and actions.
I'm pointing it out because you can't defeat indoctrination by just assuming that the cult members are just morons who can't know better or ignorant people who haven't been told the objective truth.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 331d
I agree
That's the worst bit
They can do better
Most of them choose not to, because it's more important to them that they can openly hate
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 331d
That's missing a crucial difference between ignorance and brainwashing that I neglected to mention at first but have added to my comment now:
Like with any cult, there's different levels of susceptibility to and understanding of objective reality.
While some are indeed just bad people looking for a justification for their bigotry, others are otherwise decent people whose minds have been so warped by the brain washing that they're incapable of accepting evidence contrary to the core "truths" without first being deprogrammed.
For an example from real life, my partner grew up a Jehovah's Witness. Until a couple decades ago, that cult and the conservative politics that go hand in hand with it was her "truth".
It was only with enormous effort of her own and the support from her then-husband that she managed to break free of the cult.
Even then, she went through hardcore Catholicism and other mental, spiritual, and political "halfway houses" before becoming the left wing atheist I know and love so damn much today.