One of Britain's most commonly used political words is of Irish origin: Tory.
When you look into the etymology, and consider the historical relationship between Britain and Ireland, it makes sense that that would be the one we (Britain) heard often enough to copy.
English is actually 3 proto-languages in a trenchcoat that hides in a back alley and shivs other languages when they walk by, then rummages around in their pockets for some spare words.
Not to my knowledge. Irish never stopped being the language of daily life in parts of west Ireland and as far as I know the resurgence of the language started in the 1800’s with the Gaelic League and the Society for the Preservation of the Irish Language. I wouldn’t be surprised if the latter did some work on codifying certain things into a conventional framework but I’m definitely over my skis at this point.
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ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip · 79 pts · 296d
I hope she's left wing in the "tax the fuck out of corps who've been using our Bonnie Island as a tax avoidance scheme" sense
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 296d
The president in Ireland is more of a head of state than a policy maker. The head of the government is the Taoiseach which is basically the PM.
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 296d
fuck if I ever make a country the head of the government will be called the prumen dowekk kumquat
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 296d
It’s Irish, they have their own language that the Brits tried to stomp out but thankfully is still here. Regardless, good luck on your new state
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 296d
language is harder to steal than physical relics
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 296d
I dunno, English is pretty good at stealing bits of other languages.
palordrolap@fedia.io · 5 pts · 295d
One of Britain's most commonly used political words is of Irish origin: Tory.
When you look into the etymology, and consider the historical relationship between Britain and Ireland, it makes sense that that would be the one we (Britain) heard often enough to copy.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 295d
I've been using the term "Tory" as a pejorative. I was gleefully happy when I found out tory (tóraí) in Irish means "outlaw", which the Tories imho.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 296d
But it's more of copying, isn't it? The peoples that the British "take" words from still keep those words.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 295d
English is actually 3 proto-languages in a trenchcoat that hides in a back alley and shivs other languages when they walk by, then rummages around in their pockets for some spare words.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 295d
Israel stole many Arabic words
torch_and_blanket@sopuli.xyz · -2 pts · 295d
Borrowed, because the language they were reconstructing was missing a lot of vocabulary. But yes.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 295d
Didn't they rebuild the language from scholarly texts after declaring the Free State in 1918?
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 295d
Not to my knowledge. Irish never stopped being the language of daily life in parts of west Ireland and as far as I know the resurgence of the language started in the 1800’s with the Gaelic League and the Society for the Preservation of the Irish Language. I wouldn’t be surprised if the latter did some work on codifying certain things into a conventional framework but I’m definitely over my skis at this point.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 295d
My mistake, I was thinking of proto indo european
Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 295d
Ireland has always had a tiny population of Irish speakers some are even first language speakers
I believe they are trying to grow it with little success? I'm sure someone with boots on the ground can tell you whats actually going on
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 295d
Are you thinking of Hebrew?
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 295d
No I never got into homebrewing, too much setup. What even is a mashtun, anyway?
EccTM@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 296d
There's nothing stopping you, just establish your own micro-nation and take it from there. Global recognition will probably take a bit longer though.
EccTM@lemmy.ml · 48 pts · 296d
I'm gonna miss seeing Miggeldy represent us so gracefully as a nation. Absolute legend.
st3ph3n@midwest.social · 46 pts · 296d
Absolutely, I've never heard anyone say a bad word about him.
I'm also so very glad that cunt McGregor got nowhere with his bid.
EccTM@lemmy.ml · 32 pts · 296d
I honestly didn't realize McGregor was as serious about his candidacy as he was, I just assumed it was the cocaine tweeting.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 295d
What's her pet situation? It's going to be hard to top Sioda and Brod. But it's the most important question.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 296d
The Finns Wake Again!
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 295d
Finns? Is it 1086 in Ireland these days?
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 295d
It was a hopeful James Joyce joke, no Ireland has not timetraveled.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 295d
Fair enough. My joke was based on my poor memory of vikings raiding and settling in Ireland at some point.