Obamacare enrollee sees premium spike over 300% as sign-up period begins: 'This will devastate us'
https://abcnews.go.com/US/aca-obamacare-enrollment-begins-subsidies/story?id=127061178
https://abcnews.go.com/US/aca-obamacare-enrollment-begins-subsidies/story?id=127061178
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boaratio@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 300d
It's not called Obamacare, it's called the affordable care act and every time a media outlet does this it hurts the program that helps millions of people.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 300d
That’s the point.
verdantbanana@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 300d
verdantbanana@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 300d
helps people to purchase insurance with subsidies but does not help citizens have healthcare
minimum wage is still stuck at $7.25 and any healthcare solution involving subsidies that go directly to megacorps that are actually causing the healthcare crisis while still requiring massive payouts from citizens just to have healthcare does not help at all
democrat mindset of less bad=good enough is not sufficient to tackle the healthcare needs of any country
throwing some Febreze on a pile of shit definitely does not help agree but at the end of the day no matter what do or don't do still a pile of horseshit and bad for you
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 300d
How do you feel about the Republican’s healthcare offerings and solutions of “fuck you die in the streets?”
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 299d
I feel like my health care situation hasn’t changed in 20 years. It keeps getting more expensive and the care is worse. So idk I’m ok with “fuck you die in the streets” that was also their message from the War on Drugs. They are a consistent party.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · -9 pts · 300d
Do you always let the Republican's define your standard of living?
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 300d
I asked someone else’s opinion of something to gauge their views
Not sure why you decided to take a trip into fantasy play land, but have fun
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · -8 pts · 300d
What a strange and off-topic retort.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 300d
I was thinking the same, weirdo
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 299d
as i did, you. -Unless you have your own fantasy conversation going on and now you're projecting.
So it's a simple question, Do you always let the Republican’s define your standard of living?
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
Amen.
GaryGhost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 299d
Obama care and aca is the same thing. Maybe it confuses people but how does calling it Obama care make it sound bad? For me Obama care sounds like a compliment to Obama, like he tried to do something good even though it was gutted by Republicans. That $500-1000 fine for not having insurance really pissed me off though. I worked overtime to make 30k annually and wasn't offered health care but also did not qualify for affordable insurance
boaratio@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 299d
Remember when Obama wore a tan suit and Republicans were ready to burn the white house down? That's why. For a minority of Americans they think Obama was the anti-Christ. That's why.
Leave aside how flawed the bill was, but call it what is is: the affordable care act.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 299d
Do you have any idea how 'Obama care' started? Because it wasn't his idea, it was Romney-care first. Kicker here is that Romney-care was spawned by the Heritage Foundation. The ones responsible for Project 2025.
You draw whatever conclusions you want from that.
GaryGhost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
I didn't know that. I don't remember specifics anymore, I remember the aca was revised over and over before it was approved. Should have been called the pos act
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 3 pts · 299d
The Nazi party uses Obamacare as a boogeyman scare tactic fueled by racism and a desire to split the population more.
Its better to remind anyone using Obamacare that it in fact, Romney Care.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
Ya the penalty was such a slap in the face. Health tax for being healthy. Helped to pay for these fat MAGAs who probably would have succumbed to diabetes by now.
EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 299d
No, it was meant to feed the fund like safe drivers do for liability insurance. Leaving only sick/older adults in (like only bad drivers) means that pay outs for claims would have to drain the fund. But you go on thinking you'll be healthy for the rest of your life.
The social contract means something.
GaryGhost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
Your ignoring how it is for profit by private insurance companies.
EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 299d
Yeah, we should have gotten a single-payer or government-administered system that no one could have (except maybe the Amish) opted out of. That way, middle-man costs could have been accounted for and the millionaire CEOs shut out more easily. Congress sold us out to serve the UHC and other masters.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 298d
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 298d
Yea I pay the social security and Medicare taxes. I didn’t make a social contract with a fucking insurance company. Free Luigi.
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 298d
I’ve got millions of dollars in taxes paid and I’m living in poverty with no access to medical or food resources lol. Social contract deez. They are using the constitution as toilet paper and you’re telling me about a social contract with a insurance company after paying in 20 years to the actual social contract that’s been disposed of for tax cuts on private jets. Jesus Christ man get a grip. Glazing the insurance industry for wut?
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 300d
Wait, I was told everything, even including Faux News, was the "liberal media, though...
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 300d
The Affordable Care Act "enrolleee sees premium spike over 300% as sign-up period begins: 'This will devastate us.'"
-You're right, that does sound nicer
/s
I've used the program for both market insurance and medicaid and beside the expanded medicaid I consider the program a failure from inception. -Insurance doesn't have to pay if they refuse to acknowledge a person's claims which renders all other benefits a moot point.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 300d
Expanded medicaid was the point, we were supposed to have single-payer and mandated insurance with ACA, and then Republicans stripped those out, which hobbled the program and took away the main advantages. It's worth revisiting this because this is how 32/33 of the most developed nations on earth do it, surely there's something worth salvaging and trying again on.
Quick edit just to add, during the first year of ACA, I had to get it due to the mandate even tho I was healthy and young. My lung spontaneously collapsed that year, and I had to have $330,000 worth of surgeries. I paid $19 for a medication that was optional, otherwise I saw no bill. The program can work.
boaratio@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 300d
This is how it was supposed to be.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 300d
when the democrats had control of the house and senate? -That's akin to the current repubs blaming the democrats for the shutdown.
-Also if it's really about expanded medicaid then it's not particularly related to the post. Medicaid premiums I highly doubt are going up 300%
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 299d
Nor are the VA costs. Turns out the government is very good at negotiating its own costs and passing them along to the taxpayers
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 54 pts · 300d
That’s the point. Make you poor and unable to choose. Good thing Kamala didn’t win though, we really lucked out avoiding “business as usual” bullshit.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 300d
This is what I don't understand. Do people not factor the consequences of giving the orange buffoon power again and the impact that choice has on their own country, economy and system of government, nevermind what is happening half a world away?
beella@lemmings.world · 12 pts · 300d
People are tired of falling in line for a party that doesn't support them.
It's an easy fix, just start nominating progressive candidates.
The only issue is that upper middle class white folks will have to pay more in taxes, so they'd rather have Trump.
It's all about the money, and money brings out the worst in people.
Aneb@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 300d
I was saying to my older friends that AOC should really be running for president because in a lot of ways she brings with her Bernie ideologies, my friend told me that Democrats need to run a moderate candidate. She is a great progressive who fights bullies, instead of making backroom deals with them. I really hope Mamdani wins in New York and will signal that people really want progressives in office. AOC would be an amazing president because she actually puts the work into listening to people and acting on it.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 300d
I had a super progressive friend throw her vote away because of a war happening across the globe that's been going on for thousands of years. Kamala supported Israel and on top of that, "she's a cop."
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 300d
Probably expected the gaza war to end the first day trump was in office too...
But no, progressives aren't necessarily the entire answer either, as other forum members hope. Nothing against AOC or Bernie (I think they're great). Vote by policy and solutions, not personality or affiliation.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 300d
I think a lot of people in this world enjoy watching the suffering of others. I’ve noticed quite a number of people who claim to be lefties on here who seem to be perfectly fine with people suffering because they are suffering themselves.
They are the kind of people who would get angry and abstain from voting if they did not qualify for student loan forgiveness. They are not OK with one group of people having a win unless they are in that group of people.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 300d
The same group of people who get angry at your lifestyle because it interferes with the rules their religion forces them to adhere to? The religion they chose to follow? Those people and people who think like them?
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 300d
Mostly the fake commies on here.
Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 300d
The sad thing is that anyone who’s been paying attention could tell she was never going to win against a rich white man.
She was calm yet passionate.
She was intelligent yet down to earth.
She was serious but not afraid to laugh at bullshit from the GOP.
She had amazing policies that benefited the middle and lower class on both sides.
None of that ever mattered. She was never going to win against a rich white man.
The DNC fucked up big time.
verdantbanana@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 300d
wtf are you talking about
harris had a celebrity filled gala where republicans were invited but the people speaking on behalf of the middle and lower class and about policies that would benefit them and everyone else were locked outside and were not permitted in
what policies she was just some lawyer from california who after dating her boss got a higher position at work afterwards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
didnt lose to whitey she is a whitey
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 300d
She played the game under the rules white men had designed and implemented almost 250 years ago.
beella@lemmings.world · 6 pts · 300d
Maybe we should stop playing their game instead of being a bunch of little bitches?
Just an idea.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 300d
First rule of life -- Either change the rules or change the game, because playing their game by their rules means you're guaranteed to lose.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 300d
I don’t think those rules actually ever worked. You can’t change the game of life—you have to play it.
beella@lemmings.world · -6 pts · 300d
If Kamala won, you wouldn't be upset even though the working class is still losing.
All you'd be saying for her wet-noodle policies is "at least it's not Trump!"
You people really need to stop pretending that Kamala's victory would be your victory. They're all victories for the ruling class.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 300d
This is what will give trump another term
Exactly this right here - the perfect is the enemy of the good
etherphon@midwest.social · 6 pts · 300d
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 300d
It's like people who didn't take the time to educate themselves about how things work were shovel fed a quick fix solution by the algorithms and this is the result. Like microwaving the phone to dry it out. It has a concept that seems like it might work, but nobody who knows how microwaves and phones work would ever try that.
etherphon@midwest.social · 1 pts · 300d
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
Gay rights is a good example. The media played a HUGE role in changing our societies views on the topic and now they are working in the other direction. It takes all types, but the biggest advancement in my time was probably media inclusion and grass roots political movements to legalize gay marriage at a state level. Not enough state level popular reform in the trump era
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
The Gaza issue is so far away from gay rights. It’s not in our community; it’s not tangible to the average person. The problem is the people who are passionate about Palestine have JUST found out about the war. Through propaganda designed to to divide Americans. They are shocked to find some of us have been following the conflict for 30+ years. Amazed when one says both sides are empirically bad. Anyone who takes a side in the conflict has been made a fool. Let the religious zealots kill each other in peace. That’s what they wanna do. It has nothing to do with America.
beella@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 300d
Eh, more like the good is the enemy of the lesser and greater evils which is why we can't have good candidates.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 300d
Yep. 100%. And it seems the algorithms push this kind of thinking everywhere. Used to be this lazy "both sides" take was just a thing you usually heard kind of on the margins, and mostly in-person, usually from someone that was either a Libertarian, a Communist, or just someone incredibly tuned out of everything, but wants to sound really profound. 🙄
Now it's just all over the place. It's a great way to atomize much of the left and demoralize just enough people so that they don't turn out for Democrats.
And remember - no matter how much these types might actually believe their schtick (and aren't just paid actors or bots) and stamp their feet, there are exactly TWO viable options at the ballot box when it comes down to the general.
Talking about woulda coulda shoulda and being a precious purity pony is just a circle jerk, and nothing else.
3abas@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 300d
You have no principals, if you did, you'd oppose those directly in opposition of your principals.
Instead you call evil imperfect because it doesn't harm you and yours. You're part of the problem, you're why the Democrats feel comfortable running a campaign to the right of GWB's, 20 more years and you'd be voting for everything Trump is doing today and calling it imperfect.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 300d
What a weird response. Just straight up looney tunes
3abas@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 300d
What's looney tunes about having principals and not supporting those who oppose them?
Do you have something to actually say in response, or are you simply satisfied with calling it crazy?
Do you disagree that Kamala Harris was further to the right of GWB on trade? On asylum and border crosses? On energy? Calling as a "left candidate" for the "most lethal military" to big applause?
Do you disagree that the Democrats are further right than 20 years ago? The shift to bootlicking and police worshiping? Do you not see what they actually fund and vote for in between using minorites in rhetoric about human rights and equality? Did you miss how they completely moved on from roe v wade?
If you have leftist principals, you don't support candidates who directly oppose them, just because the other candidate opposes them more. Prop up your own candidate who supports your principals even if they have no chance at winning, because it's crucial to keep your principals in the conversation. Once they're out of the conversation, good luck getting the masses thinking about them again.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 299d
This is too emotional - blue no matter who we’ve got to fix this shit looney tunes. Voting Blue is the start
If someone wanted to split the Blue vote their comments would read exactly as yours
beella@lemmings.world · -2 pts · 300d
I mean, you're the moron who thinks that a candidate who supports the working class is 'perfect.'
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 300d
Hahaha just unhinged - it’s like you’re not even on this planet. How super weird you must be
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 300d
Yes, but we'd be stressing the point that the better of two options is the one that prevailed. The onus is on the losers to provide a better and more appealing candidate next time. It's like natural selection.
In Canada, we chose the least-worse option. It's not a great option, but it's far better than the worst. We're hoping to see more support for an even better option.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 300d
Yeah but they get to say 'i didn't vote for trump, because I didn't vote'.
beella@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 300d
What do you mean? When Biden won, they still went with Trump.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 300d
I’d be upset, I dislike her very much. However, we wouldn’t be watching SNAP benefits disappear. Women wouldn’t be denied abortions. We wouldn’t have ICE standing around in masks shooting civilians with paint balls.
The real problem is people like you. People who think we have to make everyone suffer. That burn it down and rebuild it lie, or the “reset” button. Sure, you can burn it down and press reset, it reset is slavery and feudalism.
Good luck!
beella@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 300d
If it upsets you so much, you can do something about it.
Start supporting better candidates and encourage others to do the same.
Once we nominate a candidate that actually cares about the working class, then we can stop having this discussion and focus on solving real problems.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 300d
That is not how politics actually works.
I do support better candidates… In the primary… But then I vote for the person who is the least likely to destroy everything.
That’s the problem with 2024. The Democrats never had a primary. That was wrong. Nobody wanted her. And just because you don’t like the candidates doesn’t mean you’re not supposed to vote.
I think what a lot of uneducated lefties forget is that “better” is subjective, and that positive change happens in very small amounts–whereas negative change usually happens in huge chunks.
But if you really want to know what I think, I feel humanity is far too flawed to get beyond where we are right now as a society. I mean, look at us, we are sitting here arguing and probably on generally the same side. There is zero hope.
mufasio@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 300d
You were willing to overlook a genocide. We are not on the same side. Maybe one day you will come around to my side and we will welcome you. I will never come around to your side.
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 300d
I am sure that, like many people, she dislikes you as well.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 300d
I’m sure we are in the same boat
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 300d
No. You and I do not share the same boat.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 300d
Yes, we are in the exact same boat. You don’t know me and therefore you can’t confirm that we are not. You just want to be mean to someone online… Boat.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 300d
Oh I'm sure it'll right itself after a century or two. Just like the last time, and not in their lifetimes. Lol.
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 42 pts · 300d
For the death cult, the cruelty was always the point.
nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 300d
And it is a death cult
Look at their churches everyone praying to the nailed-up dying guy pleading for their Savior to come back and end the world
Christianity is sick as fuck and Christofascists are in charge
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 300d
I was referring to the Republican party, not the religion.
I see your point though.
nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 300d
Fair point. There used to be a distinction.
To quote the great Peter Sellers: "Not anymore!"
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 300d
In spite of the despicable nature of the christo-fascists that took over the party, I do have to keep reminding myself that it's not a majority.
For one, it wasn't a majority that voted for trump, and even those votes have been revealed through statistics to have been tampered with.
I don't feel like I could be an apologist, but I also don't feel comfortable condemning whole groups because of minority bad actors.
I'm in conflict for sure though, because if you see a Nazi sit down at a table with 10 people, what you have is 11 Nazis.
As for this last vote, if you voted, you knew and if you claim you didn't, you're either lying to yourself or to everyone else.
/Soapbox
Aeri@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 300d
I don't desperately need medical care, but my heart burns for anyone who does rn.
I received a message that my "so cheap it was basically free" plan will be 400$ a month starting in 2026. I'm going to call in on monday to tell them to cancel it.
People will die because of this as a direct result.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 300d
Here's the thing: you don't get to pick when you need medical care.
Aneb@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 300d
Mood as someone who never thought abt breaking a bone. I broke my collarbone this month and now owe $600 in medical expenses. I was barely keeping up with my monthly premium bill at $60. So yeah my insurance is going from $60 to $160 with the removal of the advanced tax credits to my plan, I have no idea what to do except not break another bone and cancel my plan.
SlippiHUD@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 299d
I'm in the same position.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 300d
Isn’t this why the US government is shut down? To avoid this specific thing?
Hyaline_Cat@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 300d
It's shut down to bring attention to this and demand extended subsidies that prevent this kind of thing. The shut down is a bargaining chip, not a solution.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 300d
But remember the Orange Turd has a plan. Your death.
jwt@programming.dev · 7 pts · 300d
*Concepts of a plan
TronBronson@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 299d
Smith and Wesson is my health care provider. This is America!!