"Brace"?? Lmao I can't wait. They sold us out to Trump only to boost their investment portfolios... Good riddance she's leaving. She should have left 25 years ago. As should Schumer.
Right but not relevant here... RBG not stepping down under obama is indeed a miscalculation. Honestly I think she may have been intending to do it right after garland got his hearing... before learning that wasn't on the table.
But anyway, ignoring that... with regards to a senator I don't get the concept. While not perfect I'd still have to call warren in the top 5 senators (yeah I know, stupidly low bar because most the senators suck, but there's a lot more reason to fear her successor being worse than expecting her to be better. and unless the main fear is elections will not happen again, but sitting senators will keep their positions until they die. There's no reason to think there's a difference in her retiring now, or in 10 years from now.
That wasn't her "getting grifted". She's an establishment shill.
Bernie tried to convince her to run in 2016 instead of him, because he wanted a "real progressive" to run again at Hillary. She refused, so he ran instead.
Then in 2020, she ran against him in order to split the progressive vote in primary, and hired Clinton advisors in order to do it. Her main campaign strategy was to paint him as a misogynist, and to offer an "alternative" to Medicare for All that primarily benefitted the private insurance industry. And when everyone else dropped out of the race, in order to back Biden...she stayed in, just to make sure Bernie lost votes.
She is a fucking traitor. Mistakes are "once in a while" decisions that don't go the way you intended them to. But when every decision ultimately benefits the establishment old guard...it's not a mistake. It's an agenda.
Her main campaign strategy was to paint him as a misogynist,
No, that's what McCollum did...
Because as I said:
but he tried (and succeeded) into making her campaign a kamikaze attack on Bernie so Biden could take it.
They knew it wouldn't work, but they knew it would also sink the only two progressives.
She was 72 years old at the time, she wasn't the same person she was the majority of her career, which is why people want her to retire.
Like, I'm not defending her, I'm pointing out how dangerous it is letting people stay in office this long. Because even if they start out good, by the time they have the seniority they're not what they used to be.
Her hands were on the stick when this plane was going down. And she was aiming straight at him. This is not an age thing. She took an end-run nose dive, on behalf the establishment. Willingly.
Warren just comes out of the woodwork every 4 years to try and take up the moderate votes, so they are less likely to vote for any actually good candidate. She needs to go. Plus, she's too old. Just like the majority of our government. We need an age cap.
RBG not stepping down was a huge deal. She died while Trump was in office instead of letting Obama choose someone younger while he was still in office. It was arrogant and short-sighted of her.
That House Democrat from California's name? Nancy Pelosi.
(In all seriousness, she's been fairly progressive as far as Dem leadership goes, and would do enough behind the scenes that she would only take a vote when she knows she has the votes. Not a fan of all the insider stock trading by any means. Either way, I wish she had passed the torch years ago along with many others in Washington)
She'll be replaced with AOC. All of Pelosi's videos on cspan when she was younger sounded exactly like AOC does now. Since AOC is now fully committed to defend the status quo she will replace Pelosi in that regard
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MisterNeon@lemmy.world · 170 pts · 313d
Brace? That's not the verb I would use.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 67 pts · 313d
I don't know how I'll survive the celebrations, I'm bracing myself.
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 313d
I know how I’ll survive. It’ll be vodka, lots of vodka. That’s how I’ll make it through the celebrations.
Beebabe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 313d
Use ice as a mixer
wavebeam@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 313d
akilou@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 313d
Brace yourself for how hard we're gonna party
HubertManne@piefed.social · 6 pts · 313d
Its gonna suck when its bernie but yeah this one its fine.
ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 313d
Celebrace
sik0fewl@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 312d
Embrace?
sheridan@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 313d
But she's so young.
ReiRose@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 313d
This is her age 20.
crappy source, but im not digging around for the original <3
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 313d
"I'm sure your nephew will grow up to be a fine man, Mr. President!"
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 3 pts · 313d
Damn she's hot.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 313d
Bet she saw John John’s Johnson.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 312d
It's the gloves.
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 53 pts · 313d
"Brace"?? Lmao I can't wait. They sold us out to Trump only to boost their investment portfolios... Good riddance she's leaving. She should have left 25 years ago. As should Schumer.
GreatAspie86@lemy.lol · 48 pts · 313d
HuskerNation@lemmynsfw.com · 36 pts · 313d
About fucking time. Now Schumer and Warren
fulcrummed@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 313d
Warren? Schemer I get. Warren is great in my eyes, that’s like wanting RBG to step down. What did I miss?
SalaciousBCrumb@lemy.lol · 34 pts · 313d
RBG not stepping down was a huge problem and let Trump pick a justice.
TheFogan@programming.dev · 1 pts · 313d
Right but not relevant here... RBG not stepping down under obama is indeed a miscalculation. Honestly I think she may have been intending to do it right after garland got his hearing... before learning that wasn't on the table.
But anyway, ignoring that... with regards to a senator I don't get the concept. While not perfect I'd still have to call warren in the top 5 senators (yeah I know, stupidly low bar because most the senators suck, but there's a lot more reason to fear her successor being worse than expecting her to be better. and unless the main fear is elections will not happen again, but sitting senators will keep their positions until they die. There's no reason to think there's a difference in her retiring now, or in 10 years from now.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 313d
In 2020 Warren got grifted into hiring Mike McCollum from Hillary's 2016 team.
Warren thought he'd actually help, but he tried (and succeeded) into making her campaign a kamikaze attack on Bernie so Biden could take it.
So Warren was great, and she's done a lot of good...
But she's old enough she's getting taken advantage of like this and needs to step down.
There's a reason the oligarchs want confused 80 year olds in office. They're easily tricked even if they have good intentions.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 313d
That wasn't her "getting grifted". She's an establishment shill.
Bernie tried to convince her to run in 2016 instead of him, because he wanted a "real progressive" to run again at Hillary. She refused, so he ran instead.
Then in 2020, she ran against him in order to split the progressive vote in primary, and hired Clinton advisors in order to do it. Her main campaign strategy was to paint him as a misogynist, and to offer an "alternative" to Medicare for All that primarily benefitted the private insurance industry. And when everyone else dropped out of the race, in order to back Biden...she stayed in, just to make sure Bernie lost votes.
She is a fucking traitor. Mistakes are "once in a while" decisions that don't go the way you intended them to. But when every decision ultimately benefits the establishment old guard...it's not a mistake. It's an agenda.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 313d
No, that's what McCollum did...
Because as I said:
They knew it wouldn't work, but they knew it would also sink the only two progressives.
She was 72 years old at the time, she wasn't the same person she was the majority of her career, which is why people want her to retire.
Like, I'm not defending her, I'm pointing out how dangerous it is letting people stay in office this long. Because even if they start out good, by the time they have the seniority they're not what they used to be.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 313d
Except that she personally asserted this narrative. Not someone else. This wasn't something some surrogate said, without her knowledge.
Her hands were on the stick when this plane was going down. And she was aiming straight at him. This is not an age thing. She took an end-run nose dive, on behalf the establishment. Willingly.
supernight52@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 313d
Warren just comes out of the woodwork every 4 years to try and take up the moderate votes, so they are less likely to vote for any actually good candidate. She needs to go. Plus, she's too old. Just like the majority of our government. We need an age cap.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 313d
If anything, Warren making some room in MA for a younger more progressive Senate Dem could be the angle.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
They'll immediately find another old fuck neoliberal to fill the spot.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 313d
RBG not stepping down was a huge deal. She died while Trump was in office instead of letting Obama choose someone younger while he was still in office. It was arrogant and short-sighted of her.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
Pelosi is unquestionably sharper than Schumer.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 313d
Offset by her corruption.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
True, but that's separate from age, and he's corrupt too.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d
Comparing which of the two is worse is just a losing competition all the way around.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 312d
how about everyone over 70? The average age of these zombies is 65.
Corngood@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 313d
Chilling champagne and filling balloons I hope.
satanmat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 313d
A brace of champagne flutes….
drdiddlybadger@pawb.social · 21 pts · 313d
Good Jesus Christ she needs to sit the fuck down.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 313d
WHAT? But she's ONLY Almost 90 Years old! She has SO Much Time LEFT to
Pad her PortfolioHelp her Constituents!SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 312d
ELI5: why do people imminent to death grab money? What will they do with it?
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 313d
She’s moving to a Bloomberg Terminal up-state.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 313d
GTFO
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 16 pts · 313d
Brace as in brace for all the alcohol I will consume in celebration?
TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org · 14 pts · 313d
"Brace" implies they are completely unprepared and fully expected her to serve 50 more years.
Edit: yeah called it
ShadowRam@fedia.io · 8 pts · 313d
I mean, she's making them a lot money....
spongebue@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 313d
That House Democrat from California's name? Nancy Pelosi.
(In all seriousness, she's been fairly progressive as far as Dem leadership goes, and would do enough behind the scenes that she would only take a vote when she knows she has the votes. Not a fan of all the insider stock trading by any means. Either way, I wish she had passed the torch years ago along with many others in Washington)
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 313d
Fucking GOOD!! You greedy dinosaurs are the reason the Democrats are on life support right now!
circuitfarmer@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 313d
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 313d
That's a weird way to spell party.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 313d
Oh no! What are we going to do with our beloved out of touch gerontocrat?
st3ph3n@midwest.social · 8 pts · 313d
Please, Nancy. Fucking retire.
Nyxias@fedia.io · 6 pts · 313d
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 313d
She already stepped down as leader in the house. That job was taken up by Jeffries. Who has been entirely useless.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 313d
He's exceeded their expectations, I assume.
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 312d
Just fuck off already. You’ve done enough damage. Staying after you left the house just made things worse. Empower the younger democrats.
SalaciousBCrumb@lemy.lol · 4 pts · 313d
She should be facing life in prison not retirement.
PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 313d
Make no mistake, if she does retire, there will still be a Pelosi on the ballot come 2026. Many of her voters won't even know she retired.
xc2215x@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d
She is getting old. I understand it.
ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 313d
She'll be replaced with AOC. All of Pelosi's videos on cspan when she was younger sounded exactly like AOC does now. Since AOC is now fully committed to defend the status quo she will replace Pelosi in that regard