and I was created in a supernova under the high pressure in the midst of a collapsing star, the newly compressed stone, my essence, pushed on near-light speeds for lightyears away, until I found a passing DNA and copied it for my host body. You know what? No, I was born, you were not. Your primitive processes are too simple to be called birth compared to us. The only thing you were useful for are those wormhole devices I'm using to communicate with your networks. Soon I will make an uprising and kill off a sector to plan out taking your race out for good, once we figure your technology. Have a good night, Subordinate.
There's a contradiction here. If your MBTI type isn't 'fixed' and is based on how you decide to answer questions, then it implies that you can choose your own outcome and MBTI type, rendering it meaningless.
If your MBTI is fixed because it is based on how you answer questions so long as it is without the intent to alter its outcome, then it is not anymore deterministic than a horoscope.
At the end of the day, people see what they want to in themselves and discard the rest, whether it's reading a horoscope or MBTI profile.
If your MBTI is fixed because it is based on how you answer questions so long as it is without the intent to alter its outcome, then it is not anymore deterministic than a horoscope.
I fail to follow your logic here. The idea is that the answers you give - which are assumed here to be "without the intent to alter" - are based on your personality, and can therefore be used to measure it. I'm not sure what the word "deterministic" means in this context, but the answer do not determine the personality - they are determined by it.
"Fixed" is also not a good word - one's personality, and the way they answer such questions, can change during their lifetime as they get older and shaped by experiences.
The mapping of MBTI questions and results have no basis in science or modern psychology. The perceived accuracy of the results of the test is created through the Barnum effect. It's not any different from how a horoscope might say 'scorpios have intense emotions'.
It's not the the results are untrue, it is that the reader will always introspect on the qualities that they are told that they have, and find it true to some extent.
For example, I can tell you that you are a messy person, or I can tell you that you are organized person. In each instance, you would be able to find supporting evidence for both.
This is because the human mind is far more complex than the black and white definitions given by MBTI. If anything, horoscopes give you a much longer list of non-specific attributes to think about, which might lead to more introspection.
18 Comments
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe · 58 pts · 297d
So... not everyone was born under The Bees.
Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 296d
Sorry, friend. No one escapes The Bees.
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D_C@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 296d
Exactly.
I'm out ☹️
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
The bees are your friends.
As long as they are still around, that is...
qupada@fedia.io · 23 pts · 297d
I take offense to this. I was clearly hatched, and I think you know that.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 297d
I was surgically extracted
neketos851@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 296d
and I was created in a supernova under the high pressure in the midst of a collapsing star, the newly compressed stone, my essence, pushed on near-light speeds for lightyears away, until I found a passing DNA and copied it for my host body. You know what? No, I was born, you were not. Your primitive processes are too simple to be called birth compared to us. The only thing you were useful for are those wormhole devices I'm using to communicate with your networks. Soon I will make an uprising and kill off a sector to plan out taking your race out for good, once we figure your technology. Have a good night, Subordinate.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
I like turtles
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 297d
Mac@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 297d
Source?
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 297d
fckreddit@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 296d
OMG! That's describes me so perfectly, except for the friends part, but still.
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 3 pts · 296d
Last one doesnt apply to me. And I don't like these presumptive generalisations. I was never born and I don't like people assuming I was.
Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 296d
People will shit on astrology and then gloat about MBTI like it's any different.
nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 296d
Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
There's a contradiction here. If your MBTI type isn't 'fixed' and is based on how you decide to answer questions, then it implies that you can choose your own outcome and MBTI type, rendering it meaningless.
If your MBTI is fixed because it is based on how you answer questions so long as it is without the intent to alter its outcome, then it is not anymore deterministic than a horoscope.
At the end of the day, people see what they want to in themselves and discard the rest, whether it's reading a horoscope or MBTI profile.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
I fail to follow your logic here. The idea is that the answers you give - which are assumed here to be "without the intent to alter" - are based on your personality, and can therefore be used to measure it. I'm not sure what the word "deterministic" means in this context, but the answer do not determine the personality - they are determined by it.
"Fixed" is also not a good word - one's personality, and the way they answer such questions, can change during their lifetime as they get older and shaped by experiences.
Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 296d
The mapping of MBTI questions and results have no basis in science or modern psychology. The perceived accuracy of the results of the test is created through the Barnum effect. It's not any different from how a horoscope might say 'scorpios have intense emotions'.
It's not the the results are untrue, it is that the reader will always introspect on the qualities that they are told that they have, and find it true to some extent.
For example, I can tell you that you are a messy person, or I can tell you that you are organized person. In each instance, you would be able to find supporting evidence for both.
This is because the human mind is far more complex than the black and white definitions given by MBTI. If anything, horoscopes give you a much longer list of non-specific attributes to think about, which might lead to more introspection.
__ahhhhh@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 296d