Fake aliens landing so you can create an enemy to hate that doesn't actually exist. Just make sure to make it clear that the aliens can't shapeshift or otherwise disguse as humans or animals.
People call Lord Vetinari a Machiavellian figure, and indeed he is — but only for a given value of Machiavelli. A true student of The Prince would be a lot more brutal, and would firmly believe that it is better to be feared than loved. Vetinari firmly believes that it is better to be permanent than either.
I wish someone would give them enough critical thinking skills to be hard to manipulate, it's an ask, given the advancement of advertising / propaganda over the last century, but I wish.
We've talked about engineering positive viruses. I wonder if we can engineer positive parasites?
Actually, create a political platform around a think tank + powerful AI system (and a network of fact-checkers / blue-teams) and then run it to create policy toward long term progress and elevating the bottom rungs of the population into the working class. Make the figurehead a movie star who is great at patriotic oration. This is quite doable.
The problem is, billionaires and oligarchs don't want to build a star spanning republic of which they're personally a small part. They want to rule a silly little banana republic. So autocratic fascists get huge infusions of cash from them to stop projects like the one described above.
Once we create a society that is a cultural panopolis, though, it's only a matter of time until the Zaphod Beeblebrox party, above, infiltrates all the dictatorships and causes political trouble, possibly challenging their rule to adopt the same set of principles. It may be this reason that aristocratic elites get very aggressive against anyone who tries to do a communism. (See the USSR who got shut out by Wilson early on, or the massacre of the Black Panthers by FBI.)
If we didn't have the climate crisis and the plastic crisis looming as unnavigated great filters we'd have a workable super-villain master plan that didn't actually involve killing millions of people.
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Zachariah@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 305d
They’re called “teachers” and they work their asses off nearly every single day of the year.
happydoors@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
I love that this insinuates teaching is some sort of manipulation. And that’s a completely fair argument!
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 57 pts · 305d
Problem is people with good hearts aren’t very interested in manipulating people.
Rothe@piefed.social · 15 pts · 305d
Also Americans aren't very interested in them either.
discosnails@lemmy.wtf · 9 pts · 305d
Speak for yourself.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 304d
So I was actually raised by a pretty narcissistic and manipulative father, but my grandma instilled me with a strong sense of compassion.
I feel the urge to manipulate people into better versions of themselves. It's a morally conflicting feeling, so I generally don't follow through.
I'm sure there are others like me.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 22 pts · 305d
They celebrate hatred, they celebrate selfishness, they celebrate screwing over the vulnerable, they celebrate greed
It's no wonder they worship horrible people
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 305d
Fake aliens landing so you can create an enemy to hate that doesn't actually exist. Just make sure to make it clear that the aliens can't shapeshift or otherwise disguse as humans or animals.
TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 305d
I too have read Watchmen
s@piefed.world · 17 pts · 305d
I’ve coined the term “benevolent Machiavellianism” for schemed social manipulation of people into doing what is in all parties’ best interests
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 305d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
wasn't the prince satire though?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 304d
Most scholars say no currently.
victorz@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 305d
Here's a version with a little less whitespace. 👌
ignotum@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 305d
Goddamn shrinkflation affecting memes too now?
victorz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 305d
I rather feel like the blank space around these social media posts has gotten out of hand lately. Might just be me. 🤷♂️
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 305d
/c/nonfunctionalslackfillignotum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
MalReynolds@piefed.social · 14 pts · 305d
I wish someone would give them enough critical thinking skills to be hard to manipulate, it's an ask, given the advancement of advertising / propaganda over the last century, but I wish.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 305d
We've talked about engineering positive viruses. I wonder if we can engineer positive parasites?
Actually, create a political platform around a think tank + powerful AI system (and a network of fact-checkers / blue-teams) and then run it to create policy toward long term progress and elevating the bottom rungs of the population into the working class. Make the figurehead a movie star who is great at patriotic oration. This is quite doable.
The problem is, billionaires and oligarchs don't want to build a star spanning republic of which they're personally a small part. They want to rule a silly little banana republic. So autocratic fascists get huge infusions of cash from them to stop projects like the one described above.
Once we create a society that is a cultural panopolis, though, it's only a matter of time until the Zaphod Beeblebrox party, above, infiltrates all the dictatorships and causes political trouble, possibly challenging their rule to adopt the same set of principles. It may be this reason that aristocratic elites get very aggressive against anyone who tries to do a communism. (See the USSR who got shut out by Wilson early on, or the massacre of the Black Panthers by FBI.)
If we didn't have the climate crisis and the plastic crisis looming as unnavigated great filters we'd have a workable super-villain master plan that didn't actually involve killing millions of people.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
excuse me zaphod isn't a dictator he's a distraction (and a target)
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 304d
As per the figurehead I was describing above. So... precisely!
BlackJerseyGiant@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 305d
That was Dick Cheney, problem was that good hearts 2 thru 7 weren't his...
etherphon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 305d
Glass houses and all that...