Google has announced it is building a new way for 'experienced users' to install Android apps that haven't been verified.
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https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/11/android-developer-verification-early.html
Google has announced it is building a new way for 'experienced users' to install Android apps that haven't been verified.
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Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org · 91 pts · 278d
This isn't -bad- news, but I'm still not impressed. They could have just, you know, not done it in the first place. They don't get credit for partially walking back a bad decision. The "advanced flow" is more likely a dark pattern, and will still have a chilling effect on FOSS uptake and distribution, which is still the intended purpose of the change.
TheOneCurly@feddit.online · 6 pts · 278d
yep, it was already impossible to get people to use fdroid. Now there's no way anyone except hardcore enthusists will even attempt to get away from the play store.
zeca@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 278d
I have faith we'll find a way to make it even easier than using f-droid.
GeneralDingus@lemmy.cafe · 34 pts · 278d
Still going to give Linux phones a shot now that the cats out of the bag.
vividspecter@aussie.zone · 21 pts · 278d
Yep. Also, unlockable bootloader support has went from a high priority to mandatory on the back of this news. Hopefully there are multiple good Linux options for my next upgrade in a few years too.
rearview@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 278d
Building a new way does not adequately means giving up on developer verification. In the last paragraph, Google is also promoting the verification for non-GPlay developers.
Out of all possibilities in this universe, there may be a chance that these new flows include user verification instead of developer.
There should also be a rule to rephrase "sideloading" as "installing from non-Google-approved sources" at this point.
Xylight@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 278d
As much as sideloading is a strange term, it is one that most people understand. If someone were to search for information about this specific topic, they would search for "sideloading", not whatever alternative we come up with, regardless of how "accurate" it is
Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 278d
IIRC, the term predates Android, and was originally coined to refer to installing non-apple applications on the original iPhone. At the time, this could only be done via cable. So, as distinct from "downloading" from the app store to the device, it does make a certain kind of sense. It's been accepted into the vernacular with a slightly warped meaning, but that's language for you.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 278d
Reminds me of manifest v3
They just delayed it until people got bored being mad
henfredemars@lemdro.id · 2 pts · 278d
I just hope more open phones like the rumored Graphene phone with actually good high-end hardware are out by then so I can leave their ecosystem comfortably. As you wrote, Google has a history of abusive behavior and doing what they want anyway.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 278d
Sorry, I'm seeing someone else.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 278d
Amazing, so basically what everyone said: Put all the big red scary warnings you want but don't make it impossible.
Look how much pushback was needed to reach this obvious common sense solution. Truly incredible.
Thanks for nothing Google 👍
murmelade@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 278d
At least they helped the degoogle thing gain momentum.
QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 278d
They did! I'm on GrapheneOS now. I postponed the switch for over a year and the sideloading news convinced me to do it on the first free weekend. I'm very glad I did it.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 278d
too late. eat shit and go fuck yourself, Google.
MasterBlaster@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 278d
Couldn't handle the blowback, eh? I doubt this will convince the townsfolk to put down the pitchforks. Might need more walk back.
Zak@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 278d
I imagine they announced the most extreme form of it they were considering and had several fallback plans depending on how much backlash there was.
MasterBlaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 276d
Definitely the intelligent way to do it.
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 278d
a fairphone with murena /e/os is looking pretty good right about now, or maybe whatever grapheneos is cooking up.
dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 278d
Have one (Fairphone with E/OS) and tbh, I really enjoy not dealing with googles shenanigans and straight up malware practices. I did not take kindly to one morning them telling me they removed a "dangerous" app. Mind you, it was a work phone and NFC debugging app from our own institute, costing my employer my lost time on it. Extra bonus for remotely installing and executing unwanted services that reduce battery life by 75%.
With that level of interference, I wonder about the legal implications? "Someone torrented shrek from that phone?" Or even "Device was used as part of a malicious DDoS op?" Must've been some intern/intelligence agent at google, I don't control the device after all." seems like a legitimate defense/claim. Well, as long as the rule of law exists in some way. But if that goes away, then it doesn't matter really. At that point you need guns and combat drones, not phones.
shifty@leminal.space · 3 pts · 278d
Furilabs also has a linux phone.
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 278d
there are multiple linux phones and distros, but I'm not considering any of them at the moment. I do like some or even a lot of convenience, and degoogled android is just about the most concessions I can make at the moment.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 278d
Salamitaktik?
henfredemars@lemdro.id · 4 pts · 278d
Interesting! I learned a new word. And yes, look to Google Chrome's walking back of blocking ad-blockers to its eventually implementation anyway once people stopped screaming about it.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 278d
Mort and Baileys tactics
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 277d
This will buy everybody more time to make/refine/try out normal non-google options, before they inevitably kill it permanently in a few years.
kokesh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 278d
They are not easing up anything. They said there will be small scale testing still possible already. What we need is to say Yes, I want to enable Unknown sources install like we did until now.
QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 278d
mistermodal@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 278d
A friend in Bulgaria couldn't even find a way to enable sideloading in the first place so maybe they should ease up on the existing ones 🙂 no? Death it is then,