Among Republicans, 82% say they have a close friend who is a member of the other party, compared with 64% of Democrats, according to the NBC News poll.
Despite a polarized, partisan political environment, most voters who consider themselves a member of a party say they have a close friend on the other side of the aisle, according to the latest national NBC News poll.
Self-identified moderate Republicans (87%) were 8 points more likely to say they have a close Democratic friend than conservative Republicans (79%). By the same token, moderate Democrats (78%) were 21 points more likely to say they have a close friend who is a Republican than liberal Democrats (57%).
Among voters categorized as "core" GOP supporters, 77% have a close Democratic friend, while 90% of "soft" Republican voters do. There was a similar gap between "core" Democratic voters, at 57%, and "soft" Democrats, at 73%, when it comes to having a close Republican friend.
62 Comments
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 128 pts · 302d
The takeaway here is that Republicans are generally confused, lonely, unprincipled and two-faced.
It's not a "difference of opinion" when your party think I should be put in a concentration camp even if you know I'm "one of the good ones." You're all the bad ones, and I know it.
nkat2112@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 302d
Very well stated, thank you.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 120 pts · 302d
Narcissists often think that people who tolerate their presence all want to be friends with them
Bassman27@lemmy.world · 105 pts · 302d
“I’m not racist I have a black friend” energy
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 302d
Pointed that out in my comment too. Republicans probably think theyre friends with Democrats who are "one of the good ones." Dems are smart enough to know Republicans are all bad
nkat2112@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 302d
Exactly, thank you.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 301d
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the_tab_key@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 302d
Interpretation: Republicans more likely to be unaware that people they consider friends actually hate them.
CyanideShotInjection@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 302d
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 302d
so just like abusive husbands who think the marriage is amazing
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 42 pts · 302d
They're more comfortable with lying.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 302d
What they are thinking of, is they used to have a good friend in the other party. They just didn’t get the note that, that friend stopped considering them as a friend.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 302d
Yeah, or that. I certainly jettisoned several people over their political affiliation over the last few years.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 301d
I have family with problematic views, but I wouldn’t call them friends.
Jhuskindle@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 301d
Theyre lying.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 301d
That's what conservatives do. They are venal, disingenuous, self-absorbed, hateful little people.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · 4 pts · 300d
Some of them could be hiding their opinions and saying "I just don't like to get into politics".
kandoh@reddthat.com · 18 pts · 302d
Conservatives are vile creatures who think as long as they are polite to your face then everything is okay.
MisterOwl@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 302d
They don't even need to do that. The ol' deathbed confession and/or going to church on occasion will make up for a lifetime of behaving like a psychopath, right?
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 301d
That's because people who aren't MAGA don't consider MAGA people friends any longer. We drew the line in the sand long ago...
mriormro@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 301d
Do I look like I give a shit? I'm not trying to make friends with republicans.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 301d
Just like when racists totally have a black friend, right?
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 301d
Right, because the Democratic Party is considered more honorable than the assholes in the Confederate Party. Who wants to aspire to be friends with Confederates?
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 301d
If I find out that a friend votes Republican, I find out we ain't friends. They're just somebody I thought I knew.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 301d
Consequence of being friendly is that a lot more shitty people will consider you their friend than the other way around
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 301d
Lol
Heikki2@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 301d
My very much not in a cult F-I-L gets mad everytime I tell him to turn off Faux News when he spouts propaganda.
He retorts back he watches and reads all kinds of news like Drudge Report, OAN, and New Max. He also claims to have a black friend
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 301d
Holy shit, what an open mind. What is he, a LIEberal?
/s
wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 300d
How people still insist fox news is news when they've gone out of their way to say they're not is beyond me. And wow I'm so sorry your fil consumes all that
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 302d
Dems need to get on my level and just not have any friends of any political persuasion
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 302d
Let's take the quiz, of possible reasons:
A. They are lying
B. They're narcissistic
C. They don't actually know what "friend" means
D. 64% of Democrats that have a friend in the GOP and the 82% of GOP that say they do are one to Many.
E. 64% of Democrats don't know what a friend is
F. Democrats are lying in this study.
melvisntnormal@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 301d
Maybe the relationship is one-to-one and actually there are way more people willing to identify as a Democrat 🤷🏿♂️
(I don't actually think this, just a random thought)
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 300d
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · -15 pts · 302d
I shouldn't be surprised Lemmy thinks this is a good thing. It's really a problem for Democrats, and it's a big reason trump won in the first place. You need people that disagree with you on occasion.
orclev@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 302d
There's a time and place for disagreements, but basic human rights ain't it. If this was the 1980s and we were all arguing over whether the wealthy getting yet another tax break would actually benefit the poor you might have a point. At this point the argument is about whether trans people should be allowed to exist and whether birth right citizenship should be removed (to say nothing of the concentration camps). Those are not disagreements anyone needs to hear.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 301d
That happens when groups get into purity spirals. When you push people who mostly agree with you away, they might find people that you really don't agree with.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 301d
Purity spirals? How do you find the middle ground between freedom and fascism?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 301d
I don't "mostly agree" with anyone who supports the literal concentration camps currently operating in my country.
bobgobbler@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 301d
Ah more of that enlightened centrist bullshit. FO
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 302d
Yeah, those people are the centrist/slight right Democrats. The Republican party can fuck all the way off. Just because an ideology exists doesn't mean it deserves to be respected.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 301d
Writing off half the population is part of the problem. Not all of them are terrible, but if you shun them, the only place accepting them is even further right.
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 301d
It’s weird that this never applies in reverse. It’s always “Democrats need to be more accommodating.”
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 301d
It's part of Murc's Law. It's just a given that Republicans can and will behave like broken individuals with psychopathy and arrested development and are completely incapable of getting any better or growing up. It is the responsibility of Democrats to reach out and coddle and "compromise" with such types, even if the Republicans' policies have the end game of these people being erased or imprisoned or excommunicated or treated like second-class citizens....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murc%27s_law
I've been noticing this for decades and could not put my finger on what I objected to, and now that it is named and properly described, holy shit, you just cannot unsee it. It's not confined to the press, it is EVERYWHERE, all the time, and those finger-wagging nannies that try to pull this shit look all the stupider for it now that it has a name...
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 301d
Probably because Republicans are about 20 points more likely to already be accommodating.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 301d
This ain't a sign of tolerance among Republicans.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 301d
They're fucking liars, dude
tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 300d
By accommodations are you referring to the concentration camps?
Oh you meant the poll, which is just their point of view of themselves, it's obviously not reality.
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 301d
Yeah, I don't really care at this point. I'm tired of people acting like it's wrong to not be willing to compromise with a group of people that rubber stamp inhumane treatment of other people. This admin is doing fascist Nazi shit and yet I still see Republicans covering for them and supporting them. Until Republicans can stop condoning and supporting evil, they deserve to be ostracized.
I do not give a single fuck if it drives them further right. Trying to compromise with these people has not done anything but drive them to the far right anyway, so why should they be validated by continuing to take them seriously?
scutiger@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 301d
Compromising with them leads them to believe they are right.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 301d
It just leads to the Overton window getting dragged even further to the right.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 8 pts · 301d
Giving people a pass for being intolerant is writing off the people they are being intolerant towards. And if you actually care about those intolerant people you would shun them in the hope they recognize their mistake instead of coddling them like they're incapable of being an adult.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 301d
Shunning them doesn't work work though. It just pushes people to further radicals. Friendship can actually keep people from and sometimes bring them back from extremism. Shunning feels a lot better for the shunner though.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 6 pts · 300d
Tough shit,. It is our responsibility to protect people, not to fix every broken man. Even Jesus flipped tables and ran out the money collectors from his house.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 300d
He also defended a repentant tax collector.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 6 pts · 300d
Yes, because he repented! He didn't defend those who thought they did nothing wrong. Jesus and the Bible is pretty clear that Jesus won't defend you unless you're actually sorry. He is the friend that calls you out on your shit, to your face in front of your peers to the point that you either run away or admit your mistake. What would you call that if not shunning?
tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 300d
Sure.
But once someone votes to put me in a concentration camp they are no longer acting like my friend.
So regardless of their feelings, the friendship is dead.
tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 300d
Struggle sessions are one thing.
Inviting the neighbor over, who voted to take away my healthcare and put me in a concentration camp, is another.
I'm for forgiveness and second chances. But I don't call fascist sympathizers friend.
So no, I don't hang out with folks who voted for Trump. Not without them admitting they fucked up first.
A Rebulican that voted for Harris I'd be far more tolerant of, if such unicorns exist.
theparadox@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 301d
I don't think it's good, I think it's unavoidable. For decades the right has been a party of, for lack of a better term, evil. However, they'd hidden it under a cloak of libertarianism/freedom and religiosity. This gave them plausible deniability. Sure, some voters were responding to dog whistles or were otherwise drawn in by the undercurrent of evil, but it was forgivable to vote conservative because the cloak gave them plausible deniability.
Trump threw away the cloak. He'll bring out a fragment of it and wave it around when someone points out hypocrisy, but it's so transparently performative that the plausible deniability is gone. Those in power on the right are openly greedy, hateful, petty, dishonest, racist, authoritarian, fascist, etc. Anyone who still supports them has to either be so ignorant and frustrating to deal with that they aren't worth your time or so willfully ignorant that they are difficult to forgive.
I still think they can figure it out, but the leopard will likely need to eat their face and the faces of everyone they love and go on a villainous "This was my plan all along mwahahahah" speech before that happens. Or Trump will just say "AI, Fake News" and they'll find more loved ones' faces to feed them.
tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 300d
https://lemmy.world/post/38823368
This about sums it up.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 300d
Compromise doesn't have to mean meeting in the middle. You could agree to allow abortions and require hospitals to provide guns for newborns.
tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 300d
What's the compromise with the neighbors across the street that voted to put half their neighbors in concentration camps and outlaw abortion?
Do we throw brown folks under the bus? Women? Transfolks like myself?
Which out group do we let them hurt in the name of compromise?
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 300d
What a load of nonsense.
I watched for 30 years as Democrats tried to be nice and tolerant and compromise with Republicans, and Republicans spat in their face and called them communist traitors every single time. Republicans don't want people who disagree with them, just people who will let them walk all over them.
Trump won because people tolerated the racist uncle, the homophobic grandparents and neighbors, and the anti-vaxxers. And they took that tolerance and used it to propagandize the shit out of everything and everyone, telling people that all their problems are the fault of minorities.