Disclaimer: This post is not an argument for nor against the separation of Quebec from Canada ^[1]^, nor the upholding of bilingualism in Canada ^[2]^.
For context, approximately 88% of French speaking Canadians are located in Quebec ^[3]^. Of the approximately 12% of French speaking Canadians who are not located in Quebec ^[6]^, 85% of them are bilingual ^[4.2]^. Approximately 1.8% of French speaking Canadians outside of Quebec don't also speak English ^[7]^.
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- Type: Article. Title: "Learn about Quebec". Publisher: "Government of Canada". Published (Edited): 2025-02-06. Accessed: 2025-12-03T01:12Z. URI: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/settle-canada/provinces-territories/quebec.html.
- Type: Text. Location: ¶1.
Quebec is a French speaking province in north eastern Canada. It’s the largest of the 10 Canadian provinces. […]
- Type: Text. Location: ¶1.
- Type: Document. Title: "CONSTITUTION ACT, 1982". Publisher: "Government of Canada". Accessed: 202512030102Z. URI: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-12.html.
- Type: Text. Location: §16>§1.
English and French are the official languages of Canada and have equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all institutions of the Parliament and government of Canada.
- Type: Text. Location: §16>§1.
- Type: Meta. Published 202512030119Z.
- There are 7 074 328 French speaking Canadians located in Quebec ^[4.1.1]^, and 8 066 633 French speaking Canadians in total ^[4.1.2]^. Therefore, the percentage of French speaking Canadians who are located in Quebec is
7074328/8066633*100%^[5]^, which is approximately 88%.
- There are 7 074 328 French speaking Canadians located in Quebec ^[4.1.1]^, and 8 066 633 French speaking Canadians in total ^[4.1.2]^. Therefore, the percentage of French speaking Canadians who are located in Quebec is
- Type: Website. Title: "Statistics on official languages in Canada". Publisher: "Government of Canada". Published (Edited): 20240814. Accessed: 202512030122Z. URI: https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/official-languages-bilingualism/publications/statistics.html.
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- French-speaking population in Quebec: 7 074 328.
- Total French-speaking population: 8 066 633.
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- In 2021, 85% of Canadians whose mother tongue was French were bilingual.
- Type: Table. Location: Table 1.
- Type: Article: Title: "Percentage". Publisher: "Wikipedia". Published (Edited): 2025-08-13T15:45Z. Accessed: 2025-12-03T01:30Z. URI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage.
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- Approximately 88% of French-speaking Canadians are located in Quebec ^[3]^. Therefore, of the 100% of French speaking Canadians in total, there would approximately be 12% (ie
100% - 12%) Canadians outside of Quebec who speak French.
- Approximately 88% of French-speaking Canadians are located in Quebec ^[3]^. Therefore, of the 100% of French speaking Canadians in total, there would approximately be 12% (ie
- Type: Meta. Published: 2025-12-03T01:43Z.
- Approximately 12% of French-speaking Canadians are located outside of Quebec ^[6]^. 85% of them are bilingual ^[4.2]^, therefore 15% of them (
100%-85%=15%) are not bilingual. Therefore, 1.8% (12*15%=1.8%) of French-speaking Canadians don't also speak English. :::
- Approximately 12% of French-speaking Canadians are located outside of Quebec ^[6]^. 85% of them are bilingual ^[4.2]^, therefore 15% of them (
50 Comments
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 24 pts · 252d
You know that New Brunswick and Ontario have a bunch of francophone right ?
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 252d
Manitoba and Saskatchewan as well.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 251d
And Alberta!
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 252d
Yes: 30.3% of New Brunswickers are French-speaking ^[1.1.1]^ (34.0% bilingual ^[1.1.3]^), which is 0.6% of the Canadian population ^[3]^, and 3.8% of Ontarians are French-speaking ^[1.1.2]^ (10.8% bilingual ^[1.1.4]^), which is 1.3% of the total Canadian population ^[4]^.
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(231 850/41 744 210)×100 ~= 0.6%) of Canadians.(533 560/41 744 210)×100 ~= 1.3%) of Canadians. :::loonsun@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 251d
Yes but those are specific ethnic populations with separate histories and cultures from Québec. Im an anglo Québécoise engaged to an Acadienne from New Brunswick. It's a completely different group.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 245d
I'm not sure that I understand your point. Could you elaborate? 🙂
wretched@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 252d
Hypothetically if Canada wasn't Canada, do you think Canada should Canada?
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 252d
Yes. We need all the cultural separation from the US we can get. Add indigenous languages too.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 251d
Yeah, we could go with the South Africa approach and just give a butt-ton of things official status.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 252d
You will either need to be French/English bilingual or English/Cree-Ojibway-Saulteaux-Coast Salish/Haida, etc bilingual.
Why you ask? Because Canada has walked the official bilingual state status for far too long to give it up on a whim.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 252d
Curiosity.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website · 3 pts · 251d
Sea lioning
Looks like you’re using a “just asking questions” approach to try to stir up frictions.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/sealioning-internet-trolling
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
I'm not sealioning. Why do you construe "curiosity" as sealioning?
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 252d
Do you think it should, though?
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 252d
Your quote ---
Guess you didn't really mean that, eh?
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
Yes I did and do. Why do you think I don't?
shapeofthings@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 252d
Being bilingual is a huge asset for a person and even more so for a country.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 251d
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
IMO, you can still voice your opinion without expectation of change.
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 251d
I would take the top-5 languages spoken in Canada and make the country multilingual based off of that.
If that just so happens to include Cantonese and Hindi, so be it.
If it includes Cree and/or Inuktitut, even better.
Sure, have English as the baseline. A baseline should always be the most spoken common language. But having an few other languages as “official” - and supporting numerous others in the way Europe does - would make Canada far more inclusive and intellectually robust.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
For clarity, can you define what a "baseline" is in this context?
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 245d
In this context I see a baseline as a language that
And for some countries, there would be several that could fit both criteria. Switzerland would likely have French, German and Italian meeting all thresholds, allowing all three to be baseline languages.
Unfortunately, French does not meet the minimum-used criteria for Canada, as only 18% of citizens can speak it with any great skill. However, the geographical concentration criteria would likely overrule the usage criteria (via Québec), thereby allowing it to remain a baseline language.
Secondary languages would have similar criteria, only relaxed somewhat.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 251d
I suppose New Brunswick would still be bilingual, so why not. It would make sense to relax official language rights in the Charter a bit, though.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
What changes are you suggesting?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 245d
Like, every service by law being available in both seems like overkill. It's good to have services available in other languages than English, so there's no reason to shut it down proactively, but native languages, Mandarin and Punjabi seem like equally major priorities without Quebec.
I suppose French on every label would also be overdoing it, by that logic, although without that it would feel less like home.
non_burglar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 252d
Yes.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 252d
Do you mind elaborating on your rationale? 🙂
non_burglar@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 251d
I'm a bilingual french-english Canadian, raised outside of Quebec. French is my first language. Having access to both languages in school, at home, and in professional settings has created in me and my bilingual peers a strong sense of identity, a strong sense of empathy toward those who don't speak English as their first language, and it has allowed me to impart a sense of culture to my kids without anchoring it in religion.
That said, I have been through the 1995 separation referendum. I've also been harassed and mocked for speaking French. There are those who don't care about rich cultural lives, and they have no shame in asking brazen questions like this. Given the framing and feigned innocence of your question, I think you are one of those.
What is your motivation to stir such a sensitive question among Canadians?
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
I think it's important to understand the arguments of others before attempting to take a position.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 245d
What's driving this assumption of yours?
non_burglar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d
Entendre les memes arguments contre le Français au Canada hors-Quebec pour 50 ans.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
What argument was I making?
leastaction@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 252d
Hypothetically, if Martians were to land on Earth, do you think we should welcome them?
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 252d
Depends; are they bilingual?
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 252d
But what percentage of the overall population of Quebec speaks French? Above a high school level?
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 251d
94%
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 251d
Source
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 251d
Virtually everyone speaks french. I went there as a french and never had to speak another language. I'm surprised it's not a bit higher if anything
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 251d
I mean like data that is real and not a person’s experience, no offense intended.
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 251d
The fucking census
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 251d
Link?
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · -1 pts · 251d
Man, that 6% must have it rough. I'd rather not speak French living in France, because at least they aren't worried about being erased.
HaustierElch@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 251d
A lot of that 6% lives in Montreal and people speak both languages and French speaking people make efforts to make themselves understood by even sinply using English from the beginning if they hear the person is mainly speaking English even though the law states we should always be able to be served in French.
Meanwhie, Quebecers speak French in France and they answer in English because they don't make the effort to understand what we say.
Edit: also, it looks to be 14.9% and not 6%
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 248d
Hmm. I wonder where OP's number came from.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 244d
I encourage you to examine the references section at the bottom of the post. The references correspond to their relevant citations in the post.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 243d
Does one of them have alsimoneau's number in it (that's who I meant)? You yourself gave a number closer to 15%.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 227d
Oh! Aplogies! I thought you were referring to me when you said "OP" ^[1]^.
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Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 227d
I'm not sure where they got their number from.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 245d
I'm not sure about "above a high school level" specifically, but the population of Quebec who spoke French as their first official language is 84.1%, as of 2021 ^[1]^.
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