Opera did ditch their own browser engine long time back and are now just a skin on Chromium [like many other browsers]. Opera, for some reason, has multiple browsers running. Neon isn't their main offering as of now. They technically have Opera GX [gaming focused version] and Opera Air [released some months earlier though I haven't used the latter] as well.
Which is kind of funny. It barely had any name recognition at all, and for the die hards still on board, they all tracked the nuance of the situation and either gave up or went to Vivaldi.
We bringing back the Netscape Navigator business plan?! Because that didn't work out so well for Netscape.
"This is different because AI!"
Business ideas like this share a thing with lemmy; They all overestimate how tech savvy people are. I could knock every door on the block and ask for opinions on AI and the only person who might have a clue is the young guy next door who does IT for the county. Everyone else would have no idea what I was asking or have a wildly misinformed opinion.
An automated browser is a neat idea I’d occasionally use.
But it should be a free, standalone tool. It should not pop up in my face and beg me to use AI. It should not data mine the heck out of me. It should be local, private, pick-your-API.
I wouldn’t touch Atlas, Perplexity, or whatever this is with a ten foot pole.
The fact is that an AI assistant could also be quite useful at times, but people have to understand how the core functioning of a browser works (i.e. for the vast majority of things you use a search engine, not a chatbot), and its paramount to have a local AI for such services, in order to guarantee privacy and affordability
What specifically are you requesting friend, this is a matter of public record?
As for the “dude” I don’t really consider it gender-specific… though your handle indicates that you’re the king of insect shit so, I’m honestly having a hard time seeing where I went wrong here.
Meh… I used it until they started trying to change money… the first time? No real interest in how they were trying to butcher the pig since I left the luau 😝
45 Comments
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 246d
I’d pay $20 a month never to hear about AI again
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 246d
Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 246d
At this point I’d rather every corp pushing it lose all their money instead.
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 46 pts · 246d
This guy is a web3 leader, agile coach, and he has a "Master of Science in Leadership & Organizational Behavior." Not a scammer at all.
And paying $20 a month to search for slop recipes and have your private data stolen is very cheap.
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 244d
Web 3 was the NFT world, surely an AI fueled internet is Web4? Hm. Why haven't we heard of web 4 yet?
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 244d
The matrix is vibe coding itself as we speak!
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 246d
MantisToboggon@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 246d
Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 246d
It can also eat my ass like groceries.
Phegan@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 245d
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 245d
This is what you call a AAAA quality CEO
SaneMartigan@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 246d
"You can ask it anything"...
"Ask it to fuck off."
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 245d
And you may or may not get something useful 😅
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 17 pts · 246d
Me to pay? It's a hard sell even the other way around.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 244d
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 246d
kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 246d
Opera did ditch their own browser engine long time back and are now just a skin on Chromium [like many other browsers]. Opera, for some reason, has multiple browsers running. Neon isn't their main offering as of now. They technically have Opera GX [gaming focused version] and Opera Air [released some months earlier though I haven't used the latter] as well.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 246d
But they literally got bought up, and (IIRC) the main Opera devs moved to Vivaldi.
Opera, as it exists now, is literally just a just capitalizing on the old browser's name recognition.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 245d
Which is kind of funny. It barely had any name recognition at all, and for the die hards still on board, they all tracked the nuance of the situation and either gave up or went to Vivaldi.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d
IDK. It has enough recognition that I’ve seen it confuse folks on Lemmy. And this is a pretty techy crowd.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 1 pts · 245d
What is a "Gam8r focused" browser?
madjo@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 244d
Rgb… rgb everywhere!
Lexam@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 246d
I want you to pay me twenty dollars a month. The difference is I won't get in your way like AI.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 246d
No thanks
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 245d
That's great. Better than putting that crap in the free version
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 244d
dont worry. there'll be plenty of free ads and pop ups for those who dont pay
Davel23@fedia.io · 9 pts · 246d
lolno
madjo@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 245d
I never wanted your shitty chatbot in the first place.
MoonRaven@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 246d
Lol, lmao even.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 245d
We bringing back the Netscape Navigator business plan?! Because that didn't work out so well for Netscape.
"This is different because AI!"
Business ideas like this share a thing with lemmy; They all overestimate how tech savvy people are. I could knock every door on the block and ask for opinions on AI and the only person who might have a clue is the young guy next door who does IT for the county. Everyone else would have no idea what I was asking or have a wildly misinformed opinion.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 244d
LOL. Fuck off.
"The kids will line up to pay us to use AI"
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 246d
Anyone old enough to remember the first time Opera had a paid version of its browser?
I swore it off then (90’s) and will never go back.
rainwall@piefed.social · 3 pts · 245d
You used to have to buy netscape. You could also buy "the internet yellow pages" to find websites.
The 90s were a wild time on the internet.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 245d
I have one of those! I treasure my copy of UNIX for Dummies, came time frame.
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
Never had to buy Netscape, and I remember the Navigator 3 gold days.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 0 pts · 245d
Good thing that it was fully functional and only a very big Ad banner resides in the toolbar unless paid off.
But damn was the Opera Browser great (and the presto engine was super strict what I absolutely loved)
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 227d
Fsck that.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
We laugh about it but there are lots of idiots that will pay for it
shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
Who? America is a monster market and half of us read at a 6th grade level or less. Bet there's not 1-in-50 people in my hood that could comment on AI.
No business is paying $50/mo. a seat. It's a struggle getting auth for useful products.
SOURCE: Been purchasing IT for the last 10-years.
Imagine selling this to the boss. "Why am I paying for a web browser? Aren't those all free?"
Heard a lot of dumb AI decisions, but I gotta disagree on this one, no one's buying.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
So far unenshittified version of this:
https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS
An automated browser is a neat idea I’d occasionally use.
But it should be a free, standalone tool. It should not pop up in my face and beg me to use AI. It should not data mine the heck out of me. It should be local, private, pick-your-API.
I wouldn’t touch Atlas, Perplexity, or whatever this is with a ten foot pole.
axexrx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 244d
I wpuldnt use it if they paid me $20 a month
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 227d
Not much different than them wanting you to pay money to be able to make every hyperlink you click on make fart noises wirh OperaGX.
Lev@europe.pub · 1 pts · 244d
The fact is that an AI assistant could also be quite useful at times, but people have to understand how the core functioning of a browser works (i.e. for the vast majority of things you use a search engine, not a chatbot), and its paramount to have a local AI for such services, in order to guarantee privacy and affordability
sramder@lemmy.world · -39 pts · 246d
My dudes… Opera has been a paid browser for 20 years. Go find a new edge to lord over.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 246d
Dear edge lord. Please don’t dude me.
ormakefalseclaimswithoutanyevidencesramder@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 245d
What specifically are you requesting friend, this is a matter of public record?
As for the “dude” I don’t really consider it gender-specific… though your handle indicates that you’re the king of insect shit so, I’m honestly having a hard time seeing where I went wrong here.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 245d
correction. Opera hasn't been a paid browser for the last 20 years!
If you want to uhm acktually, use at least the correct history.
sramder@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 245d
Meh… I used it until they started trying to change money… the first time? No real interest in how they were trying to butcher the pig since I left the luau 😝