In my experience: Win 10 LTSC was really quite nice (for windows), win10 pro was okay after a bit of work, win10 home was a burning pile of sweaty diapers.
Really??? I never got that, the consensus was it was a pile of shit from the get go. It's why Microsoft had to go extra hard with shoving it down our throats and literally forcing PCs to update.
yeah first thing I heard around it was the desktop screenshotting with ai and I feel like I was in my rare agreeing with the crowd thing saying no thank you.
My timeline of Windowses (that I have an opinion on) would be as follows:
3.1: Decent. Not exactly MacOS or OS/2 but still decent.
95: Good. Solid upgrade over 3.1.
98: Good if unexciting as an upgrade over 95 OSR2.
98 SE: Why did this even exist?
Me: Terrible. They had some good ideas but botched the execution.
2000: Great. My favorite Windows until XP overtook it with SP2.
XP: Good initially, great starting with SP2. The only Windows that technically supported custom themes via a hacked theme DLL.
Vista: Nice try but ultimately bad due to being premature.
7: Really good and actually good-looking out of the box.
8: Utter trash that demonstrated how Microsoft had lost sight of user needs. Also marks the start of the extremely ugly UI period.
8.1: A slight improvement over 8 but not enough to qualify as good.
10: Well, it's better than 8 but that's it. The UI is still butt ugly, Windows Update is so unreliable it might as well be malware, the configuration is scattered randomly over the place... At least it was free.
11: Possibly worse than Me. It's a bit less ugly than 10 but that's it on the plus side. The new features are unremarkable at best and actively harmful at worst and while the UI is less ugly it's also ridiculously slow for what it does.
It's not exactly a tick-tock thing with Windows. It kinda sorta looks like it if we consider 98/SE, 2000/XP, and 8/8.1 to be one Windows each but even then it's a stretch that requires 10's "less bad than 8" to count as "good".
Saying Windows 11 is better looking than 10 is crazy to me, it took 10s awful settings UI and applied it across the system. But I prefer functional UI vs "fancy".
The light mode is not an endless sea of eye-searing #FFFFFF and UI elements are no longer restricted to monocolored flat rectangles with hair outlines. Also, the UI feels somewhat more consistent. That's something.
Mind you, "looks better than Windows 10" is not much of a hurdle to clear.
10 wasnt good overall, but it was good versus 8. 11 sucks ass and 12 will too, they will never bounce back in anyway now. It'll just be copilot ai shit.
People always judge "good" windows versions by how they were at end of life. Xp was dogshit it was so bad. 10 was also complete dogshit for rhe first few years.
Actually, the "good" Windows was Windows 9, that was never released. So it goes bad 8, godd but non-existent 9, bad 10. Than break of the cycle and bad again - 11.
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drkt@scribe.disroot.org · 47 pts · 248d
Windows 10 was good? I missed that consensus meeting. :(
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 248d
In my experience: Win 10 LTSC was really quite nice (for windows), win10 pro was okay after a bit of work, win10 home was a burning pile of sweaty diapers.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 248d
All home version are horrific even xp home was bad.
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 28 pts · 248d
7 lower on the good scale than 10??? What did the author smoke? 10 should be juuuust above the zero line.
pewpew@feddit.it · 19 pts · 248d
When Windows 11 came out everyone was saying that Microsoft finally broke the good/bad cycle.
I always tought it was unusable garbage. Finally I'm being proven right lol
warm@kbin.earth · 11 pts · 248d
Really??? I never got that, the consensus was it was a pile of shit from the get go. It's why Microsoft had to go extra hard with shoving it down our throats and literally forcing PCs to update.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 5 pts · 248d
yeah first thing I heard around it was the desktop screenshotting with ai and I feel like I was in my rare agreeing with the crowd thing saying no thank you.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 248d
Idk, I never liked Windows 10. It was better than 8, but I never thought it was good. XP was the last good Windows.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 248d
I liked 7.
My timeline of Windowses (that I have an opinion on) would be as follows:
3.1: Decent. Not exactly MacOS or OS/2 but still decent.
95: Good. Solid upgrade over 3.1.
98: Good if unexciting as an upgrade over 95 OSR2.
98 SE: Why did this even exist?
Me: Terrible. They had some good ideas but botched the execution.
2000: Great. My favorite Windows until XP overtook it with SP2.
XP: Good initially, great starting with SP2. The only Windows that technically supported custom themes via a hacked theme DLL.
Vista: Nice try but ultimately bad due to being premature.
7: Really good and actually good-looking out of the box.
8: Utter trash that demonstrated how Microsoft had lost sight of user needs. Also marks the start of the extremely ugly UI period.
8.1: A slight improvement over 8 but not enough to qualify as good.
10: Well, it's better than 8 but that's it. The UI is still butt ugly, Windows Update is so unreliable it might as well be malware, the configuration is scattered randomly over the place... At least it was free.
11: Possibly worse than Me. It's a bit less ugly than 10 but that's it on the plus side. The new features are unremarkable at best and actively harmful at worst and while the UI is less ugly it's also ridiculously slow for what it does.
It's not exactly a tick-tock thing with Windows. It kinda sorta looks like it if we consider 98/SE, 2000/XP, and 8/8.1 to be one Windows each but even then it's a stretch that requires 10's "less bad than 8" to count as "good".
warm@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 248d
Saying Windows 11 is better looking than 10 is crazy to me, it took 10s awful settings UI and applied it across the system. But I prefer functional UI vs "fancy".
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 248d
The light mode is not an endless sea of eye-searing #FFFFFF and UI elements are no longer restricted to monocolored flat rectangles with hair outlines. Also, the UI feels somewhat more consistent. That's something.
Mind you, "looks better than Windows 10" is not much of a hurdle to clear.
Gladaed@feddit.org · 6 pts · 248d
8.1 was fine
Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 247d
Hot take: 8.1 is better than 10
KuraiWolfGaming@pawb.social · 2 pts · 245d
I remember the day I "upgraded" from 8.1 to 10
So many bsods... Even now its less stable than when my 8.1 install was at its worst
HubertManne@piefed.social · 4 pts · 248d
for me 7 was peak. 10 was really bad at the start and they brought some 7 things to it and made it alright.
warm@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 248d
10 wasnt good overall, but it was good versus 8. 11 sucks ass and 12 will too, they will never bounce back in anyway now. It'll just be copilot ai shit.
Which is good, means more people coming to linux.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 247d
True. Unfortunately, I have to keep Windows around to test my apps in.
thegreatloofa@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 248d
XP my beloved
rain_worl@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
microsoft has never made a good windows
gegil@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 248d
It was good only for a couple of years after release. It was shittified later.
elgordino@fedia.io · 10 pts · 248d
Windows 2000 was the only version of Windows I would actually call ‘good.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 246d
People always judge "good" windows versions by how they were at end of life. Xp was dogshit it was so bad. 10 was also complete dogshit for rhe first few years.
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
As far as I know vista and 8 were pretty much always terrible
Avicenna@programming.dev · 3 pts · 248d
is this relatively good vs relatively bad?
kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 248d
Actually, the "good" Windows was Windows 9, that was never released. So it goes bad 8, godd but non-existent 9, bad 10. Than break of the cycle and bad again - 11.
Admax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 248d
Excuse my lack of culture, but what's the BOB on the graph before 98 ?
rapchee@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 248d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 21d
id still take 7 over 10. can't recall anything specifically in ten that I used.