"Blamed Ukraine." Ok so now we know it was a political assassination by the Kremlin.
With that out of the way, I get this feeling that typically it's a bad idea to kill your military leaders. I don't know how the military works in Russia, but given that an oligarch was able to march his PMC to Moscow with no opposition makes me wonder if the Kremlin has any capacity for reasoning over reaction.
They're kinda locked in on the "reign of terror" tech tree
The state holds the keys to power that grant it the monopoly on violence. In a democracy, those keys are pretty spread out, in an oligarchy, they're less so.
Any one of the oligarchs could take over at basically any moment, and with shit hitting the fan the way it is, Putin can't show weakness or own failure at all
I'm certain Russian propaganda is in full swing over there. Less certain that arbitrarily killing one of your top military leaders is necessary for that end.
Get real, there is a 100% chance this is just the Kremlin dealing with difference of opinion and this guy was smart enough to not stay above the ground floor of a hotel.
No matter who did it, this is the correct response. If they aren't responsible, other Russian leaders will still suspect they are and live in fear of it happening to them. If they are responsible, they'll still suspect that it was the Kremlin, or someone else in Russia, and live in fear. Ukraine taking responsibility or not reduces the amount of fear they might have.
... and? What is the Kremlin going to do, declare war?
Military officers are legitimate targets. Either Ukrainian Special Ops performed yet another successful mission within Moscow, or Russia unlawfully merced one of its own generals. Either way it's a bad look for Russia.
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gribzy_uk@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 260d
I love an Xmas good news story 😊
FatVegan@leminal.space · 6 pts · 259d
C'mon, there is still time for another great guy
gribzy_uk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 259d
Saving that one for the big day!
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social · 60 pts · 260d
Hell yes, more of this to people who deserve it, especially Russian military officers who continue following Putins orders.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 259d
"Blamed Ukraine." Ok so now we know it was a political assassination by the Kremlin.
With that out of the way, I get this feeling that typically it's a bad idea to kill your military leaders. I don't know how the military works in Russia, but given that an oligarch was able to march his PMC to Moscow with no opposition makes me wonder if the Kremlin has any capacity for reasoning over reaction.
Cort@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 259d
I'm betting it was to prevent another Prigozhin incident
theneverfox@pawb.social · 1 pts · 259d
They're kinda locked in on the "reign of terror" tech tree
The state holds the keys to power that grant it the monopoly on violence. In a democracy, those keys are pretty spread out, in an oligarchy, they're less so.
Any one of the oligarchs could take over at basically any moment, and with shit hitting the fan the way it is, Putin can't show weakness or own failure at all
thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com · 42 pts · 259d
Ukraine not even bothering with a response, just silently crippling our enemy's offense. Mature af
wewbull@feddit.uk · 43 pts · 259d
...so it was probably the Kremlin.
SassyRamen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 259d
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I believe this is more as Propaganda direct from Putin.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
Unless this guy was a dissenting general, doesn't make a lot of sense from a propaganda perspective. Too costly.
wewbull@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 259d
It's not like they've been bringing home the bacon. Would not surprise me if they've been telling lies about how well the campaign is going.
MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 252d
I'm certain Russian propaganda is in full swing over there. Less certain that arbitrarily killing one of your top military leaders is necessary for that end.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 259d
Get real, there is a 100% chance this is just the Kremlin dealing with difference of opinion and this guy was smart enough to not stay above the ground floor of a hotel.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 259d
No matter who did it, this is the correct response. If they aren't responsible, other Russian leaders will still suspect they are and live in fear of it happening to them. If they are responsible, they'll still suspect that it was the Kremlin, or someone else in Russia, and live in fear. Ukraine taking responsibility or not reduces the amount of fear they might have.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 259d
What a strange accident.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 259d
Local kids playing with IEDs, probably, and they got careless. I can't imagine what else it could be.
dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 259d
It’s clearly suicide.
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 259d
What do you mean?
Cars just do that sometimes.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 259d
Oh no, that's terrible. Just terrible. So sooooo very terrible. Sniff sniff.
Anyways, anyone want pizza?
P1nkman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
Only if you're paying.
MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world · 11 pts · 259d
I mean…does anyone believe that it was Ukraine that did this, and not just Russia killing two birds with one stone?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 259d
If it was Russia, he'd likely have fallen out of a window?
Bombs are messy and leave people talking
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
But this way they get to blame Ukraine
azertyfun@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 259d
... and? What is the Kremlin going to do, declare war?
Military officers are legitimate targets. Either Ukrainian Special Ops performed yet another successful mission within Moscow, or Russia unlawfully merced one of its own generals. Either way it's a bad look for Russia.
Cliff@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 259d
They have used bombs for false flag operations before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 259d
Firing missiles as commercial jets makes an even bigger mess.
MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world · -1 pts · 259d
…talking about Ukraine, perhaps?
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 259d
What an odd development in window technology.
bklyn@piefed.social · 5 pts · 259d
What a strangely circuitous headline
Zier@fedia.io · 5 pts · 259d
It's just like a scene from Ментовские войны. Good job Ukraine!
Harvey656@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 259d
Seems like the car just did that.
realitista@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 259d
Nice.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 259d
Lol noob
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 3 pts · 259d
Thoughts and prayers
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 259d
Do the generals live in those style of apartments we see in the picture? I would think not.
mittyta@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 259d
Yeah, exactly my thought when I read what car he had! Strange.
Upd: I checked address (Moscow, Yasnevaya str, 12k5) and this is new building that isn't very cheap. But definitely not to luxury.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 259d
You need to push triangle a-bit sooner before the explosion noob.
DrFistington@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 259d
That guy was a general and drove a freaking low end SUV. So fucking lame
arrow74@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 259d