Xiaomi 17 Ultra packs a 1-inch sensor, 200MP periscope telephoto, and a 6,800mAh battery
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_17_ultra_packs_a_1inch_sensor_200mp_periscope_telephoto_and_a_6800mah_battery-news-70863.php
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stupud@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 233d
But at what cost?
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Im referring to tracking :::
XenGi@feddit.org · 10 pts · 233d
There's not a single phone out there that doesn't track you. You can only choose who is tracking you.
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 232d
Pixels with Grapheneos don't. So there IS a choice. Hopefully soon more.
XenGi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 232d
Yeah, there are niche scenarios where tracking is minimal. But for the majority of phones you can buy, you will be tracked by someone.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 232d
People who care don't buy hardware which tracks them. It is an option.
Most people don't care, and even don't know enough to care.
Jiggs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 233d
You can also stand your ground and refuse to buy till the option is available
XenGi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 232d
Problem is, that you kind of have to have a phone nowadays to take part in society.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 232d
I don't see how it's true. It might be more inconvenient, that's all.
limerod@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 232d
Its beyond inconvinient. My work requires a login app which works only on android. Plus, Whatsapp for co-ordination, planning and allocation. If you do not have one. You cannot work at all.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 232d
I also have a number of mandated programs on my work phone. But work makes no demands that I need to buy a smartphone. In private life there is even no demand to have a voice line, just a physical address.
limerod@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 232d
Putting aside the login app. The downside would be less networking, connections, and job finding if you do not have a smartphone and WhatsApp. Not to mention digital payments, banking, tickets for trains, bus, etc,. Unless, you want to lose time and be in a queue everywhere.
XenGi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 232d
Depends on the country you're from and a lot of other factors.
stupud@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 233d
It only does eather if the phone vendor is an asshole who decided that you don't own your phone or you are lazy and don't install a custom ROM
Also, some vendors don't track by default, such as volla, pine, purism, Sony and fairphone
XenGi@feddit.org · 7 pts · 232d
Sony and Fairphone install standard Google services that definitely track you without asking.
Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · 1 pts · 230d
You could just unlock the bootloader and install a GSI. Problem solved. That's why I still buy Xiaomi phones, because they have great hardware and software freedom'ish
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 233d
They have always had great hardware, just terrible software so it really is not worth it
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 233d
What does this 1-inch refer to?
Cause if it is the diagonal, it would be a bigger sensor than the one in my bulky M4/3 camera.
KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 233d
It's just the name of the sensor (also called type 1 sensors) 1 inch refers to the diameter in the equivalent old CRT video cameras
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 233d
So some numerical trick like the nm values of chip technology or the given size of harddiscs. Somehow expected something like that.
I looked it up, according to wikipedia a 1" sensor is 13.2 x 8.8 mm² which would be 0.63" diagonally.
Still impressive, but deception nonetheless...
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 233d
It's so old it's not really a deception to optics/film nerds (even digital camera nerds), it's just a type more related to sharpness/use of the sensor.
A lot of such measurements relate to the film norm being 35mm (like, the 200MP periscope lens & sensor in this phone has a 300nm focal length, the sensor being a 1/1.4" type sensor instead of the 1/1 like the main camera).
The size is usually given per pixel 1.6 µm in this case (8120 x 6180) for the main sensor.
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 233d
So what's the real dimensions of the thing?
jaxxed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 232d
Why can't xiomi give us a kinux phone. Just guve devs what they need to write drivers.