Why is sharpedo blocked in image searches on DuckDuckGo and Bing, but not Google?

I thought it was maybe due to the suffix being problematic, but "torpedo" shows up without issue. Tried with safe search on/moderate and off.

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Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 75 pts · 241d (12 replies)

Duckduckgo retrive his results from bing btw

medusa@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 241d (10 replies)

Good to know. Still doesn’t explain why Google behaves but DDG doesn’t.

slazer2au@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 241d (9 replies)

Because Bing is owned by Microsoft, ddg uses bing by default. So if bing doesn't load something ddg won't either.

Do the search in ddg again but with the Google flag.

medusa@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 241d (8 replies)

Can I find images of this Pokemon? Yes. I'm wondering why this is happening. Trying to satisfy my curiosity.

adespoton@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 241d (4 replies)

Maybe “sharPedo” (erroneously) triggers some CSAM rule for Bing? Shorthand for sharing pedophilia?

medusa@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 241d (3 replies)

I had that thought, too, but "torpedo" and "pedometer" came back without issue.

adespoton@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 241d (2 replies)

That’s because they’re known words to exclude from the filter. Nobody’s flagged up sharpedo to their CSAM filter team yet.

medusa@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 241d

Nobody’s flagged up sharpedo to their CSAM filter team yet.

This sentence is cracking me up

otter@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 241d

So interestingly, slight misspellings will show the pokemon with a "Showing results for Sharpedo", but if you click on that link the results will disappear. I also can't find any other blocked examples with different made up words.

It's weird, like it has been manually blocked

Someone should send this post to some tech news/blog and have them look into it 😄

slazer2au@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d (2 replies)

Because Bing is owned by Microsoft.

You are trying to make sense of a Microsoft product. Even they dont know how to make work so why are you trying to make sense of it not working?

Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 241d (1 reply)

You’re not even exaggerating. I was trying to figure out how to let my son play Minecraft online. His account is a minor account, and I have it in my family unit with my Microsoft account. The help page in Minecraft says to enable online play in the online privacy and security settings for his account, and as far as I can tell, no such settings exist.

Mora@pawb.social · 6 pts · 241d

Thats what happens when to different AIs don't communicate with each other... /s-ish

Lojcs@piefed.social · 2 pts · 241d

Thought Bing had stopped selling api to other companies?

s@piefed.world · 59 pts · 241d (2 replies)

My guess is that it’s an offshoot of the Scunthorpe Problem. My theory (without hard evidence) is that Bing/DDG have a blacklist of terms to completely filter out from results, but a whitelist of words that contain those terms which are exceptions to the filter. This would explain why “torpedo” is ok but less common terms like “Sharpedo” wouldn’t be individually flagged as ok. You’d have to find other examples with other blocked words to test this idea.

medusa@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 241d (1 reply)

This crossed my mind too, but I wanted to verify. I'm not sure what other words would be good testers, but if you happen to find some, I'd love to know!

tyler@programming.dev · 16 pts · 241d

Just type some gibberish but with pedo in it. It should still return something if it’s not actually blacklisted since most searches use some form of word distance algorithm.

JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 241d

This is pretty sadmusing.

"Sharpe do" also works in a similar fashion.

If you click on "only show results for [not sharpedo]" the results vary, but usually there's one or more sharpedos in there.

GlenRambo@jlai.lu · 9 pts · 241d (1 reply)

Interesting that sharkpedo (how I thought it was spelt) works in DDG (as other users say DDG is bing).

I think the same as others. Just a shitty word filter in bing - word filtetes never work consistantly.

Knownword-pedo works (mostly) but not always. Treepedo works. Catpedo dosnt.

alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 241d

Maybe 3 letters isn't enough and if the word is "mostly" pedo it fails

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 241d (5 replies)

If I put jpg after then it works

medusa@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 241d (4 replies)

I found also typing "sharkpedo" works. Still doesn't explain why Google behaves but DDG doesn't.

PriorityMotif@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 241d (2 replies)

Does it happen with other pokemon? Maybe Nintendo had images deindexed for some reason.

CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in · 8 pts · 241d

No, it's pretty safe to assume it doesn't. There exists multiple fan made pokemon wikis that Pokemon Company has never touched.

medusa@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 241d

Other Pokemon work fine! Every one I tried came back with images!

Seleni@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 241d

‘Sharpedo Pokémon’ works too

Elw00t@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 241d

Letting you know that Kagi seems to have good results if that helps.

yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 241d

Bing/DDG have a lot of weird censorship.

"Shapedo" and "Sharkpedo" both work btw.

snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 241d

Scunthorpe

msokiovt@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 241d

That's what AI does for ya.