[Video] 21-year-old protester, Kaden Rummler shot point-blank in the faceby a federal agent with "nonlethal" munition, permanently blinding him in one eye.
It's "less lethal" technically, they can 100% kill people. Also this is a textbook example of what they're trained not to do (of course I'm sure he won't even be talked to, but) they're supposed to have more distance and bounce them, he intended on the possibility of blinding or death doing it that way, not "oops."
Their goal is to bait people into giving them an excuse. What they did before should matter but it doesn’t. They provoke you into crossing their line and start shooting. When has any military force in the history of the world followed rules? Don’t get it twisted this is one of the most well funded forces in the world, stacked with shoot first ask questions latter lunatics. Expecting them to follow rules is losing game. DO NOT ENGAGE! It’s what they want. Hold your ground, be loud, be a nuisance, all of it matters. They won’t bat an eye before murdering a crowd if the order comes through. Protect yourselves by being smart about it.
The intended usage of a rubber bullet launcher is to shoot it into the ground in front of the target. It's rubber so that it will bounce upward, knocking out their legs.
Targeting a person with direct fire is assault with a deadly weapon and should be prosecuted as such.
This case it's a pepper ball which is to be shot at the chest of someone further away or on the ground if nearby. I wouldn't be surprised that shitbag froze the balls before hand.
They aren’t police… and they charged the line first. From what I read, if the less-lethal round had gone just 7mm deeper he would have bled out while ‘throws-his-helmet-guy’ was faffing about.
This might be the worst take I have ever seen on this site.
I understand that and I said I didn’t know what lead up to that in my deleted comment. I was commenting on the guy that got shot in the face and why there will be no legal recourse for him in my opinion.
What do you call them pulling the first person who was just talking over a bullhorn exactly? Unless he said he would, in an incrementing way, kill someone like them or an elected official they're just destroying his first amendment rights.
I explained I don’t know what lead up to that. (it’s not in the video but was most likely the enforcement being fascist d bags but I was only commenting on what’s in the video) The guy that got shot in the face ran up on the the guys with guns, I assume a knee jerk reaction to save his friend (understandable), once he did that he engaged physically with them (which is what they want) which gave them the excuse to use (in their rule book) non lethal tactics to control the situation. There is 2 ways to fight this war and actually make lasting change. 1) Be the stronger force because unfortunately in the world we live in currently “might makes right” and good luck with that without major coordination or 2) out smart them with educated planned tactics and win in the courts like we had to do with segregation.
But 2 will never happen without being able to hear constructive criticism.
Ha ha my comment was removed. I was just commenting what I saw. I guess I’m a fascist piece of shit for having a very specific opinion on a very specific situation. All while trying to improve the safety of protesters. Better censor a non combative opinion from the public. While all these others get to project their opinions about me. Great job shutting down discourse and promoting angry mob yelling based on emotions. He lost vision in one eye and you learned nothing from it.
You're giving police apologia for excessive force. There's no reason to cause SKULL FRACTURES and BLIND SOMEONE IN ONE EYE for this. If you don't see that, you're doing police apologia.
22 Comments
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 47 pts · 214d
MAYBE if he Didn't want to be SHOT he could Have done a CONSTITUTIONALLY Protected activity like SHOOTING UP A SCHOOL instead of Illegally Protesting!
-Constitutional Republicans!
extremeboredom@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 214d
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 213d
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 213d
It's "less lethal" technically, they can 100% kill people. Also this is a textbook example of what they're trained not to do (of course I'm sure he won't even be talked to, but) they're supposed to have more distance and bounce them, he intended on the possibility of blinding or death doing it that way, not "oops."
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 213d
Oh yeah this is in my city I forgot to post it
This is the guy's gofundme
https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-k-for-justice-and-healing
Philote@lemmy.ml · -36 pts · 214d
WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 214d
Philote@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 213d
Their goal is to bait people into giving them an excuse. What they did before should matter but it doesn’t. They provoke you into crossing their line and start shooting. When has any military force in the history of the world followed rules? Don’t get it twisted this is one of the most well funded forces in the world, stacked with shoot first ask questions latter lunatics. Expecting them to follow rules is losing game. DO NOT ENGAGE! It’s what they want. Hold your ground, be loud, be a nuisance, all of it matters. They won’t bat an eye before murdering a crowd if the order comes through. Protect yourselves by being smart about it.
eRac@lemmings.world · 31 pts · 214d
The intended usage of a rubber bullet launcher is to shoot it into the ground in front of the target. It's rubber so that it will bounce upward, knocking out their legs.
Targeting a person with direct fire is assault with a deadly weapon and should be prosecuted as such.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 214d
This case it's a pepper ball which is to be shot at the chest of someone further away or on the ground if nearby. I wouldn't be surprised that shitbag froze the balls before hand.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 214d
They aren’t police… and they charged the line first. From what I read, if the less-lethal round had gone just 7mm deeper he would have bled out while ‘throws-his-helmet-guy’ was faffing about.
This might be the worst take I have ever seen on this site.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 214d
Cop alert
Sightline@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 214d
Tell us what was the benefit of being permanently blinded?
If protests are ineffective then choose a different option.
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 214d
This doesn't actually show the whole video where they drag him with his hood which starts strangling him. It's textbook excessive force.
Philote@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 213d
I understand that and I said I didn’t know what lead up to that in my deleted comment. I was commenting on the guy that got shot in the face and why there will be no legal recourse for him in my opinion.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 214d
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 214d
What do you call them pulling the first person who was just talking over a bullhorn exactly? Unless he said he would, in an incrementing way, kill someone like them or an elected official they're just destroying his first amendment rights.
Philote@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 213d
I explained I don’t know what lead up to that. (it’s not in the video but was most likely the enforcement being fascist d bags but I was only commenting on what’s in the video) The guy that got shot in the face ran up on the the guys with guns, I assume a knee jerk reaction to save his friend (understandable), once he did that he engaged physically with them (which is what they want) which gave them the excuse to use (in their rule book) non lethal tactics to control the situation. There is 2 ways to fight this war and actually make lasting change. 1) Be the stronger force because unfortunately in the world we live in currently “might makes right” and good luck with that without major coordination or 2) out smart them with educated planned tactics and win in the courts like we had to do with segregation. But 2 will never happen without being able to hear constructive criticism.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 213d
Philote@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 213d
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 212d
Kaliax@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 214d
Why did the Babbit (sp?) family get a $5mil payout then from 1/6?
MBech@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 214d
How was he in any way a threat to 4 officers? He's about a foot shorter than all of them.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 213d
He was armed or something, who knows, boot lickers and apologists are going to do what they do.
Philote@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 213d
Ha ha my comment was removed. I was just commenting what I saw. I guess I’m a fascist piece of shit for having a very specific opinion on a very specific situation. All while trying to improve the safety of protesters. Better censor a non combative opinion from the public. While all these others get to project their opinions about me. Great job shutting down discourse and promoting angry mob yelling based on emotions. He lost vision in one eye and you learned nothing from it.
gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 213d
I checked the modlog, you're such a fuckin' clown. Take the L and move along.
Philote@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 213d
Please enlighten me.
Philote@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 213d
Good talk, very helpful to the discussion. Read it again from the mindset of not wanting people to get hurt for no reason. Such a fuckin clown, ok.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 213d
You're giving police apologia for excessive force. There's no reason to cause SKULL FRACTURES and BLIND SOMEONE IN ONE EYE for this. If you don't see that, you're doing police apologia.