There's a lot of fear at my job about changing code. I've been trying to tell them to start writing automated tests. Or at least a linter to check for syntax errors. They're all like "ooh that sounds hard maybe next quarter"
Meanwhile, a trivial change requires a whole day because the developer has to manually test everything.
I just unilaterally added checks to code I have ownership over, but anything shared I'm getting "maybe in two quarters we can prioritize this" from management.
We do have a linter and tons of automatic tests. Changes are generally quite safe, not a lot of manual tests are necessary.
Meanwhile, a trivial change requires a whole day because the developer has to adjust dozens of tests and get them through a pipeline that takes hours to run.
Oof. I've had places that the pipeline was getting long. At one of my previous jobs I made it so all the tests could run locally, and we were keeping the full build as slow as possible.
We also didn't do any browser tests (eg: selenium) because those tend to be slow and most people are bad at making them stable.
I haven't been in the field for too long but my very first job had extensive ci/cd pipelines setup. At first I was kind of annoyed by having to write tests and having my code auto refused by lint checks. Now that I experienced a job that didn't have any automated testing, I realized how much I love TDD. Nearly all my personal projects have ci with at the very least lint checks.
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MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 224d
"Trying to move an image one pixel down in Word"
rtxn@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 224d
"It's just one
goto, what's the worst that could happen?"SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 224d
Raptors
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 25 pts · 224d
There's a lot of fear at my job about changing code. I've been trying to tell them to start writing automated tests. Or at least a linter to check for syntax errors. They're all like "ooh that sounds hard maybe next quarter"
Meanwhile, a trivial change requires a whole day because the developer has to manually test everything.
I just unilaterally added checks to code I have ownership over, but anything shared I'm getting "maybe in two quarters we can prioritize this" from management.
squaresinger@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 224d
At my job:
We do have a linter and tons of automatic tests. Changes are generally quite safe, not a lot of manual tests are necessary.
Meanwhile, a trivial change requires a whole day because the developer has to adjust dozens of tests and get them through a pipeline that takes hours to run.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 5 pts · 223d
Oof. I've had places that the pipeline was getting long. At one of my previous jobs I made it so all the tests could run locally, and we were keeping the full build as slow as possible.
We also didn't do any browser tests (eg: selenium) because those tend to be slow and most people are bad at making them stable.
It's important to know whats worth testing.
emergencybird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 224d
I haven't been in the field for too long but my very first job had extensive ci/cd pipelines setup. At first I was kind of annoyed by having to write tests and having my code auto refused by lint checks. Now that I experienced a job that didn't have any automated testing, I realized how much I love TDD. Nearly all my personal projects have ci with at the very least lint checks.
F04118F@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 224d
Start interviewing
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 223d
That's the plan. Unfortunately the market is kind of meh. Lots of AI slop. Lots of getting ghosted.
bleistift2@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 224d
Reminds me of the time my whole website started spinning because I forgot to close a tag.
fckreddit@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 224d
Damnit Escher. Not in my code too.
NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org · 17 pts · 224d
entwine@programming.dev · 9 pts · 224d
Reminds me of this: 2022 - Non-Euclidean Doom: what happens to a game when pi is not 3.14159…
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 224d
I commented out a line in the game I'm building and the enemy could suddenly control my character. Cool cool cool cool cool
Speiser0@feddit.org · 7 pts · 224d
If AIs were able to handle this safely, I'd consider using them.
snek_boi@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 224d
This totally happens in code where functions have plenty of side effects. And thats why functional programming can lead to fearless refactoring!
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 223d
Dang it i changed
To
Again
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 223d
"OP discovers quaternions."
How do you solve gimbal lock?
3Vector Math / Matrix Algebra?
Nonsense rotational transforms?
You do nonsense harder.
Imaginary 4th Dimension, harder.
Shut up, don't think about it, yes it will work if you don't think about it.
... I guess that makes it like, the opposite of Orc Wauuugh or whatever?